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Xithras

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49. Nudity among friends isn't exaclty a new thing.

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 12:38 PM

Apr 2013

When I was a teenager, we used to go skinnydipping in the local creeks on weekends. I probably saw a dozen of my friends, both male and female, completely nude on various occasions. Nobody thought much of it. And that was in the late 80's.

Our culture has always included a variety of opinions on nudity. Interestingly, I've always found that "liberal city folk" were WAAAY more prudish about nudity than the "conservative country bumpkins" I grew up with.

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honestly XVI_Eyes Apr 2013 #1

no it's not just nudity , a lot of the guys are gross JI7 Apr 2013 #9

Have you been in a Wal Mart lately? appal_jack Apr 2013 #23

My girlfriend works at Target and has had creepy guys try and touch her Drale Apr 2013 #51

Wait what? octothorpe Apr 2013 #81

and that's Target, I can't imaging whats happening at Walmart. d_b Apr 2013 #113

Someone said "imaging at Walmart"? FarCenter Apr 2013 #145

rickytic is my all time fav d_b Apr 2013 #149

I think they probably expose their shortcomings at Walmart alarimer Apr 2013 #125

Not only gross guys, but grossness in general. A lot of retail workers have to do stuff like clean Doremus Apr 2013 #123

Are you surprised that people are trying to compare the actions of average creepy guys out in public redqueen Apr 2013 #86

especially since they are more likely the same ones JI7 Apr 2013 #100

Either that or they aren't so judgemental about what consenting adults do with their bodies Major Nikon Apr 2013 #128

Nope. XVI_Eyes Apr 2013 #169

It may vary by state but bouncers will throw a guy out in a second if a girl wants him gone. alphafemale Apr 2013 #110

Yep. It is the woman's choice to tolerate disgusting behavior, if a guy is paying enough. redqueen Apr 2013 #112

Is it just the guy's behavior that you find disgusting? pintobean Apr 2013 #114

Yep. redqueen Apr 2013 #115

You are now claiming that there are no women exhibitionists who enjoy this work? alphafemale Apr 2013 #130

I see pintobean Apr 2013 #141

Women at Walmart don't have bouncers who will toss out people who get out of line. alphafemale Apr 2013 #116

Bouncers don't throw guys out for annoying dancers. redqueen Apr 2013 #119

You don't know what you're talking about. alphafemale Apr 2013 #120

And I've been in the clubs. redqueen Apr 2013 #121

If the stripper goes "to completion" the gravy train gets derailed Major Nikon Apr 2013 #131

exploitation is exploitation... Deep13 Apr 2013 #152

Yeah, but at the strip club you have two guys the size of small horses ready to toss them Drahthaardogs Apr 2013 #148

No, it isn't; strippers don't pose like for an art class. WinkyDink Apr 2013 #147

If that's the choice. But really, Walmart is not the only other job pretty women can have. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #156

they are mostly sleazy types and most strippers would never JI7 Apr 2013 #157

The unregulated free market moves money towards certain types of things. Ron Green Apr 2013 #2

it is pretty regulated eom arely staircase Apr 2013 #3

That's a huge payday, but that's a long workday, too. MADem Apr 2013 #4

Yep, thats what its for DiverDave Apr 2013 #5

Man, who tipped a dollar?!! KansDem Apr 2013 #38

Money goes back to the till to keep making change for the customers. JVS Apr 2013 #105

and i bet some small-time drug dealers could do the same. as could some thieves and burglars. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #6

a drug dealer may haul in that much but after he pays his connection off, there'd be a lot less. hobbit709 Apr 2013 #7

Equating stripping with burglary and thievery? WTF? nt. Locut0s Apr 2013 #10

i equate them all with a certain kind of economy, the economy of ghettoization. which is what's HiPointDem Apr 2013 #12

Stripping, drug dealing and burglary are "being done to us" by the nefarious PTB? Turborama Apr 2013 #17

Last time I checked there were strippers during the hot economy periods when everyone had a job... brooklynite Apr 2013 #103

Ghettoization... zaireeka Apr 2013 #20

My racism radar went off when I saw that... Taverner Apr 2013 #75

Ghettos are created by economics and/or politics. Appalachia is/was also a ghetto. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #77

the economy of ghettos; the economy of places from which capital has disinvested. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #83

OP this please. Gonna get lost burried here, needs to be seen more. TheMadMonk Apr 2013 #158

I will sometime, but not now. Needs to be in reference to something, & there's nothing in HiPointDem Apr 2013 #167

Oh, bull. polly7 Apr 2013 #45

women, you mean, not ladies RILib Apr 2013 #117

No, she said ladies. Sissyk Apr 2013 #136

You're exactly right Sissyk. nt. polly7 Apr 2013 #150

Would you prefer us all to be corporate lawyers woolldog Apr 2013 #61

I'd prefer a more equal world. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #79

You don't think some women would still have a desire to have such jobs? octothorpe Apr 2013 #82

i think many less would, and this is borne out historically. it's not a 'hang-up', it's a fact. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #85

I'm sure there would be less... octothorpe Apr 2013 #89

that may be, but it's really irrelevant to my point, which is not to 'criticize the job'. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #93

smiling on the job is more of a job description than whether someone actually JI7 Apr 2013 #109

It is possible that the guy hates his job octothorpe Apr 2013 #118

They can make you smille with your lips. They can't make you smile with your body. /nt TheMadMonk Apr 2013 #159

So you think women would strip for minimum wage? leftstreet Apr 2013 #168

How many strippers make minimum wage? octothorpe Apr 2013 #171

why compare three illegal things to one legal one? CBGLuthier Apr 2013 #13

because it's the same economy. strip clubs, drugs, thieves = the economy of ghettoization. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #14

Drugs and burglary theKed Apr 2013 #15

people aren't forced to buy drugs, either. the economy of ghettoization includes the legal and HiPointDem Apr 2013 #16

Don't forget regular bars theKed Apr 2013 #18

Ha! alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #21

tattoo parlors arely staircase Apr 2013 #43

LOL! HappyMe Apr 2013 #33

you should right a book on this! snooper2 Apr 2013 #34

elvis sang a song about it arely staircase Apr 2013 #44

maybe i should, since most people think ghettoization 'just happens'. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #78

That's rediculous. bowens43 Apr 2013 #26

The underground economy is really what it is davidpdx Apr 2013 #161

only part of it is underground. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #165

That's true davidpdx Apr 2013 #170

But thieves would have harmed others to make their money. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #76

but those bad bad dancers are stealing men's hard earned money... octothorpe Apr 2013 #84

"I have always been open about my body..." burnodo Apr 2013 #8

I guess you've never been at place like this. hobbit709 Apr 2013 #11

Not so strange, really. I used to spend a lot of time MineralMan Apr 2013 #22

Did you ever get a boner when you were posing? woolldog Apr 2013 #52

No. Why do you ask? MineralMan Apr 2013 #55

I just imagine that I would. woolldog Apr 2013 #56

Then doing life modeling probably isn't a good choice MineralMan Apr 2013 #59

i always figured my back would go out RedstDem Apr 2013 #58

Yah. I ended up with a sore back several times, along with MineralMan Apr 2013 #60

She says she has implants R B Garr Apr 2013 #32

Nudity among friends isn't exaclty a new thing. Xithras Apr 2013 #49

Hell for money like that I might get a sex change operation madokie Apr 2013 #19

I might try it too. KansDem Apr 2013 #39

The picture of the cash seems needed in this thread. Laelth Apr 2013 #24

A friend of mine from L.A. put herself through law school as a dominatrix Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #31

Menagerii is working to pay for college arely staircase Apr 2013 #25

It's not as uncommon as you think. Le Taz Hot Apr 2013 #35

they all are to hear them tell it, at least they were in the late 90s arely staircase Apr 2013 #37

It's none of my business Le Taz Hot Apr 2013 #40

jeez, lighten up. arely staircase Apr 2013 #41

Strippers have been "paying for college" since God made dirt, but... CincyDem Apr 2013 #47

I've mentioned on DU before.... Xithras Apr 2013 #50

I too know a woman who worked in that profession arely staircase Apr 2013 #65

My physics lab partner in college was a stripper NickB79 Apr 2013 #48

And every prostitute that approached me in Costa Rica was madville Apr 2013 #163

Quick! Someone needs to save her from being exploited (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #27

Boobies dancing lasciviously! The horror! Major Nikon Apr 2013 #126

Why the shock? I've known of girls who made two grand a night in backwoods trucker dives... Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #28

One of my nearby neighbors makes her living MineralMan Apr 2013 #29

If this were a guy, he'd be labeled "entreprenurial". CincyDem Apr 2013 #30

it will be all good until he okieinpain Apr 2013 #36

i think hooters should serve only non-alcoholic beer and decaf coffee arely staircase Apr 2013 #42

Isn't "a titty bar without any nudity" something of an oxymoron? Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #53

yes it is an oxymoron but so is non-alcoholic beer. arely staircase Apr 2013 #63

Ever been to Twin Peaks? Sissyk Apr 2013 #139

I've heard that before, I believe the term was okieinpain May 2013 #172

That's why I said "combination of ability and attitude" CincyDem Apr 2013 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #57

Too many compound logic assumptions in that one for me to interpret :-) CincyDem Apr 2013 #74

I worked with strippers for years, riqster Apr 2013 #54

Most strippers don't make that kind of money. Most aren't doing it for their higher education. redqueen Apr 2013 #62

Perhaps The Straight Story Apr 2013 #64

Surprise, surprise. Your first reply and it's about guns and disingenuous 'doors' bullshit. redqueen Apr 2013 #66

Nope. It is about underlying principles in things The Straight Story Apr 2013 #67

Thoughtful people here know what the issue you dishonestly reduced to 'doors' was really about. redqueen Apr 2013 #70

"Thoughtful people" here can read English... opiate69 Apr 2013 #72

Still stuck on doors? ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #69

Since we haven't had a new edition of Straw Woman weekly BainsBane Apr 2013 #71

I doubt there are many people here still buying that spin. redqueen Apr 2013 #73

Perhaps he "just got into town about an hour ago" Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #95

Did you not *just* take a look around to see which way the wind blows? n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #135

Ol' Jim, for all his flaws, was right about a few things. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #137

Darn it. I've got chores to do and look what you did. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #142

I haven't needed an excuse to slack. Are you guys getting this awesome weather up there? Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #143

It has been pretty pleasant, mostly. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #160

Kinda like... opiate69 Apr 2013 #68

It is no less legitimate than using a few cherry-picked examples to illustrate "male privilege" lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #80

Well the men aren't expolited when they go in and freely shell out cash Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #111

I wouldn't hang out with that kind of exec either. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #129

Oh, sure, bring up the facts about TIP in sex work Recursion Apr 2013 #88

Of course there are many who do it and enjoy it, and make great money at it... redqueen Apr 2013 #90

Right. My attempt at humor was probably ill-placed Recursion Apr 2013 #92

I don't think so... redqueen Apr 2013 #94

I liken it to people who claim they can retire anytime on their "system" Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #98

I bet the IRS loves these kinds of threads, good evidence madville Apr 2013 #87

And she is an engineering student? siligut Apr 2013 #146

I was in Costa Rica years ago and every female prostitute that approached you madville Apr 2013 #162

she works at the Cheetah wilt the stilt Apr 2013 #91

So why the boasting (and why is it even news)?? I don't get it... Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #97

Gold Club wilt the stilt Apr 2013 #102

Makes sense.... Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #104

Didn't the Govt. Go Vols Apr 2013 #108

The Gold Club Go Vols Apr 2013 #107

Are we still on strippers? Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #96

PETA suggests vegans have bigger sexual appetites in new campaign with Fallon The Straight Story Apr 2013 #99

Yeah, theyve pissed a lot of folks off with that stuff. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #101

That's not actually a "new" campaign nor suggestion... Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #106

Did they use images of sexualized, injured women back then, too? nt redqueen Apr 2013 #122

We do. n/t flvegan Apr 2013 #132

I'm holding out for a PETA stripper thread Major Nikon Apr 2013 #127

I'm holding out for a Hero Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #138

But you have to put up with disgusting men groping you. alarimer Apr 2013 #124

Good for her! flvegan Apr 2013 #133

I have a Friend that put herself Sissyk Apr 2013 #134

My fiance says the only thing she regrets about having kids Codeine Apr 2013 #140

later on, when she is an engineer Skittles Apr 2013 #144

Maybe. But just maybe she'll have... CincyDem Apr 2013 #151

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight Skittles Apr 2013 #153

Maybe. CincyDem Apr 2013 #154

But you're like DU's official ass kicker. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #155

CORRECT Skittles Apr 2013 #166

+1 Go Vols Apr 2013 #164