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In reply to the discussion: ... [View all]Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)140. A link? It's a start.
Let's go back to your original response to me:
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GMO's may not cause cancer ... but they are expensive
Roundup Ready soybean seed is about 40% more expensive than conventional soybean seed. But, if you want to truly talk about economics, you need to do the entire analysis. When you add in the costs of the other treatments, Roundup Ready soybean system is 15-20% less expensive than conventional.
http://www.uwex.edu/CES/crops/RRsoybn.htm
through patenting they fundamentally change the economics of agriculture--to the advantage of corporations and the disadvantage of farmers around the world.
Farmers are under no obligation to buy GMO seeds. The conventional seeds that existed before are still available.
They are also developed to depend on resource and fossil fuel intensive methods that are both expensive for farmers and environmentally destructive.
No more so than conventional seeds. I cannot envision one scenario where a GMO crop would require more resources and more fossil fuels than conventional crops. In the case of Bt corn, the need for insecticide sprays is essentially eliminated.
GMO's have not delivered nearly as much on their promises to bring about a "second" green revolution to save us from the consequences of the first.
That's a highly subjective comment. Arguments exist on both sides, but the "first green revolution" saved millions of lives. No credible argument against that fact exists.
Your second attempt at discussion, immediately above, repeated the arguments of the first with the exception of adding a link, plus this:
but as yet it seems that you see fit to reduce any questioning of the benefits of GMOs to anti-scientific woo perpetuated by the nasty anti-vaxxer-911-truther-echinacea-eating-numerology-gremlins.
Yes, that's right. Just as you have shown here, nearly every anti-GMO argument is founded on unconfirmed fears of the unknown or outright misrepresentation of the facts. I've lost patience with the endless repetition of the same mistaken concepts.
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Sadly, to some folks here, home schooling is just plain wrong and evil
The Straight Story
Apr 2013
#12
I don't think we have the feds running things as much as the corporate interests
mountain grammy
Apr 2013
#103
Propaganda in schools. Always been there, always will be there. Fight the power.
NYC_SKP
Apr 2013
#22
The science on the cost-to-benefit ratio of GMOs is not nearly as sound as that on CC or evolution.
antigone382
Apr 2013
#113
Other than no proof of cancer-causing, I don't agree with anything you posted.
Buzz Clik
Apr 2013
#118
I am not the OP. I am also not presenting one-sided information as truth to middle schoolers.
antigone382
Apr 2013
#119
I think the relative merit of our two discussion styles speaks for itself.
antigone382
Apr 2013
#139
I suggest parents can teach the child, but don't expect teachers to go against prescribed curriculum
We People
Apr 2013
#75
Thanks for the link. Rodale's Organic Gardening and Farming magazine was my most useful subscription
freshwest
Apr 2013
#49
I am so proud of you Coffeecat! We name school playing fields after corporations & now we let them
KittyWampus
Apr 2013
#31
really? i had no idea. I live in NY and my 8th grade daughter took those tests. I will have to
ejpoeta
Apr 2013
#63
I would prepare for some backlash if you decide to complain to the school about this
Fumesucker
Apr 2013
#48
I'm a long time lurker but this thread finally promted me to join. THANK YOU for the heads up.
MellowYellow
Apr 2013
#55
Those rice varieties are not the great revolution they were made out to be.
antigone382
Apr 2013
#116
I'm sorry, but could you please provide a source for the "two or three times" production claim?
antigone382
Apr 2013
#117
What Does One Think The Charter School Movement Is All About - Money, Message, Control And Power
cantbeserious
Apr 2013
#64
It's up to you to set her straight. Also, look at it as an opportunity for her to
Cleita
Apr 2013
#67
no it is not appropriate at all, there is no science at all proving GMOs are good
farminator3000
Apr 2013
#120
A US Department of Agriculture report confirmed the poor yield performance of GM crops, saying, “GE
farminator3000
Apr 2013
#144
Watch out for one in which she is asked to write about a 6,000 year old earth...
VPStoltz
Apr 2013
#89