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64. Perhaps

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 02:11 PM

Apr 2013

It is like how most people focus on people with guns who use them in a crime and not the 99% who don't.

It is the exceptions that make news and get most talked about (except, in this case, it was not a news org covering it).

When all we see is the negative about a group it tends to change our views on that group. Like with churches. I read a lot of small town papers and most churches do a lot of good in and for their community. When it comes to the main news networks and online people don't care about those stories because it is expected behavior so it does get reported on.

We don't report on crimes that have not happened, scams that never occurred, etc.

Thing is, now it is not just the media but everyone out looking for things which are negative and we have become more and more cynical of our fellow citizens to the point we see each other as the boogeyman (or, uh, boogeywoman).

We believe our schools all suck, passengers on planes want to kill us with a bottle of lotion, everyone's intentions are the most negative in the most simple of daily things, etc.

So yeah, focusing on just certain examples in anything can cause people to be biased - but you find what you look for.

Be back soon, have to go open a door.

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Stripper Posts Picture Of Night's Tips To Reddit; Internet Asks, 'Where Do We Sign Up?' [View all] The Straight Story Apr 2013 OP

honestly XVI_Eyes Apr 2013 #1

no it's not just nudity , a lot of the guys are gross JI7 Apr 2013 #9

Have you been in a Wal Mart lately? appal_jack Apr 2013 #23

My girlfriend works at Target and has had creepy guys try and touch her Drale Apr 2013 #51

Wait what? octothorpe Apr 2013 #81

and that's Target, I can't imaging whats happening at Walmart. d_b Apr 2013 #113

Someone said "imaging at Walmart"? FarCenter Apr 2013 #145

rickytic is my all time fav d_b Apr 2013 #149

I think they probably expose their shortcomings at Walmart alarimer Apr 2013 #125

Not only gross guys, but grossness in general. A lot of retail workers have to do stuff like clean Doremus Apr 2013 #123

Are you surprised that people are trying to compare the actions of average creepy guys out in public redqueen Apr 2013 #86

especially since they are more likely the same ones JI7 Apr 2013 #100

Either that or they aren't so judgemental about what consenting adults do with their bodies Major Nikon Apr 2013 #128

Nope. XVI_Eyes Apr 2013 #169

It may vary by state but bouncers will throw a guy out in a second if a girl wants him gone. alphafemale Apr 2013 #110

Yep. It is the woman's choice to tolerate disgusting behavior, if a guy is paying enough. redqueen Apr 2013 #112

Is it just the guy's behavior that you find disgusting? pintobean Apr 2013 #114

Yep. redqueen Apr 2013 #115

You are now claiming that there are no women exhibitionists who enjoy this work? alphafemale Apr 2013 #130

I see pintobean Apr 2013 #141

Women at Walmart don't have bouncers who will toss out people who get out of line. alphafemale Apr 2013 #116

Bouncers don't throw guys out for annoying dancers. redqueen Apr 2013 #119

You don't know what you're talking about. alphafemale Apr 2013 #120

And I've been in the clubs. redqueen Apr 2013 #121

If the stripper goes "to completion" the gravy train gets derailed Major Nikon Apr 2013 #131

exploitation is exploitation... Deep13 Apr 2013 #152

Yeah, but at the strip club you have two guys the size of small horses ready to toss them Drahthaardogs Apr 2013 #148

No, it isn't; strippers don't pose like for an art class. WinkyDink Apr 2013 #147

If that's the choice. But really, Walmart is not the only other job pretty women can have. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #156

they are mostly sleazy types and most strippers would never JI7 Apr 2013 #157

The unregulated free market moves money towards certain types of things. Ron Green Apr 2013 #2

it is pretty regulated eom arely staircase Apr 2013 #3

That's a huge payday, but that's a long workday, too. MADem Apr 2013 #4

Yep, thats what its for DiverDave Apr 2013 #5

Man, who tipped a dollar?!! KansDem Apr 2013 #38

Money goes back to the till to keep making change for the customers. JVS Apr 2013 #105

and i bet some small-time drug dealers could do the same. as could some thieves and burglars. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #6

a drug dealer may haul in that much but after he pays his connection off, there'd be a lot less. hobbit709 Apr 2013 #7

Equating stripping with burglary and thievery? WTF? nt. Locut0s Apr 2013 #10

i equate them all with a certain kind of economy, the economy of ghettoization. which is what's HiPointDem Apr 2013 #12

Stripping, drug dealing and burglary are "being done to us" by the nefarious PTB? Turborama Apr 2013 #17

Last time I checked there were strippers during the hot economy periods when everyone had a job... brooklynite Apr 2013 #103

Ghettoization... zaireeka Apr 2013 #20

My racism radar went off when I saw that... Taverner Apr 2013 #75

Ghettos are created by economics and/or politics. Appalachia is/was also a ghetto. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #77

the economy of ghettos; the economy of places from which capital has disinvested. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #83

OP this please. Gonna get lost burried here, needs to be seen more. TheMadMonk Apr 2013 #158

I will sometime, but not now. Needs to be in reference to something, & there's nothing in HiPointDem Apr 2013 #167

Oh, bull. polly7 Apr 2013 #45

women, you mean, not ladies RILib Apr 2013 #117

No, she said ladies. Sissyk Apr 2013 #136

You're exactly right Sissyk. nt. polly7 Apr 2013 #150

Would you prefer us all to be corporate lawyers woolldog Apr 2013 #61

I'd prefer a more equal world. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #79

You don't think some women would still have a desire to have such jobs? octothorpe Apr 2013 #82

i think many less would, and this is borne out historically. it's not a 'hang-up', it's a fact. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #85

I'm sure there would be less... octothorpe Apr 2013 #89

that may be, but it's really irrelevant to my point, which is not to 'criticize the job'. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #93

smiling on the job is more of a job description than whether someone actually JI7 Apr 2013 #109

It is possible that the guy hates his job octothorpe Apr 2013 #118

They can make you smille with your lips. They can't make you smile with your body. /nt TheMadMonk Apr 2013 #159

So you think women would strip for minimum wage? leftstreet Apr 2013 #168

How many strippers make minimum wage? octothorpe Apr 2013 #171

why compare three illegal things to one legal one? CBGLuthier Apr 2013 #13

because it's the same economy. strip clubs, drugs, thieves = the economy of ghettoization. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #14

Drugs and burglary theKed Apr 2013 #15

people aren't forced to buy drugs, either. the economy of ghettoization includes the legal and HiPointDem Apr 2013 #16

Don't forget regular bars theKed Apr 2013 #18

Ha! alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #21

tattoo parlors arely staircase Apr 2013 #43

LOL! HappyMe Apr 2013 #33

you should right a book on this! snooper2 Apr 2013 #34

elvis sang a song about it arely staircase Apr 2013 #44

maybe i should, since most people think ghettoization 'just happens'. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #78

That's rediculous. bowens43 Apr 2013 #26

The underground economy is really what it is davidpdx Apr 2013 #161

only part of it is underground. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #165

That's true davidpdx Apr 2013 #170

But thieves would have harmed others to make their money. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #76

but those bad bad dancers are stealing men's hard earned money... octothorpe Apr 2013 #84

"I have always been open about my body..." burnodo Apr 2013 #8

I guess you've never been at place like this. hobbit709 Apr 2013 #11

Not so strange, really. I used to spend a lot of time MineralMan Apr 2013 #22

Did you ever get a boner when you were posing? woolldog Apr 2013 #52

No. Why do you ask? MineralMan Apr 2013 #55

I just imagine that I would. woolldog Apr 2013 #56

Then doing life modeling probably isn't a good choice MineralMan Apr 2013 #59

i always figured my back would go out RedstDem Apr 2013 #58

Yah. I ended up with a sore back several times, along with MineralMan Apr 2013 #60

She says she has implants R B Garr Apr 2013 #32

Nudity among friends isn't exaclty a new thing. Xithras Apr 2013 #49

Hell for money like that I might get a sex change operation madokie Apr 2013 #19

I might try it too. KansDem Apr 2013 #39

The picture of the cash seems needed in this thread. Laelth Apr 2013 #24

A friend of mine from L.A. put herself through law school as a dominatrix Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #31

Menagerii is working to pay for college arely staircase Apr 2013 #25

It's not as uncommon as you think. Le Taz Hot Apr 2013 #35

they all are to hear them tell it, at least they were in the late 90s arely staircase Apr 2013 #37

It's none of my business Le Taz Hot Apr 2013 #40

jeez, lighten up. arely staircase Apr 2013 #41

Strippers have been "paying for college" since God made dirt, but... CincyDem Apr 2013 #47

I've mentioned on DU before.... Xithras Apr 2013 #50

I too know a woman who worked in that profession arely staircase Apr 2013 #65

My physics lab partner in college was a stripper NickB79 Apr 2013 #48

And every prostitute that approached me in Costa Rica was madville Apr 2013 #163

Quick! Someone needs to save her from being exploited (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #27

Boobies dancing lasciviously! The horror! Major Nikon Apr 2013 #126

Why the shock? I've known of girls who made two grand a night in backwoods trucker dives... Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #28

One of my nearby neighbors makes her living MineralMan Apr 2013 #29

If this were a guy, he'd be labeled "entreprenurial". CincyDem Apr 2013 #30

it will be all good until he okieinpain Apr 2013 #36

i think hooters should serve only non-alcoholic beer and decaf coffee arely staircase Apr 2013 #42

Isn't "a titty bar without any nudity" something of an oxymoron? Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #53

yes it is an oxymoron but so is non-alcoholic beer. arely staircase Apr 2013 #63

Ever been to Twin Peaks? Sissyk Apr 2013 #139

I've heard that before, I believe the term was okieinpain May 2013 #172

That's why I said "combination of ability and attitude" CincyDem Apr 2013 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #57

Too many compound logic assumptions in that one for me to interpret :-) CincyDem Apr 2013 #74

I worked with strippers for years, riqster Apr 2013 #54

Most strippers don't make that kind of money. Most aren't doing it for their higher education. redqueen Apr 2013 #62

Perhaps The Straight Story Apr 2013 #64

Surprise, surprise. Your first reply and it's about guns and disingenuous 'doors' bullshit. redqueen Apr 2013 #66

Nope. It is about underlying principles in things The Straight Story Apr 2013 #67

Thoughtful people here know what the issue you dishonestly reduced to 'doors' was really about. redqueen Apr 2013 #70

"Thoughtful people" here can read English... opiate69 Apr 2013 #72

Still stuck on doors? ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #69

Since we haven't had a new edition of Straw Woman weekly BainsBane Apr 2013 #71

I doubt there are many people here still buying that spin. redqueen Apr 2013 #73

Perhaps he "just got into town about an hour ago" Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #95

Did you not *just* take a look around to see which way the wind blows? n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #135

Ol' Jim, for all his flaws, was right about a few things. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #137

Darn it. I've got chores to do and look what you did. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #142

I haven't needed an excuse to slack. Are you guys getting this awesome weather up there? Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #143

It has been pretty pleasant, mostly. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #160

Kinda like... opiate69 Apr 2013 #68

It is no less legitimate than using a few cherry-picked examples to illustrate "male privilege" lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #80

Well the men aren't expolited when they go in and freely shell out cash Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #111

I wouldn't hang out with that kind of exec either. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #129

Oh, sure, bring up the facts about TIP in sex work Recursion Apr 2013 #88

Of course there are many who do it and enjoy it, and make great money at it... redqueen Apr 2013 #90

Right. My attempt at humor was probably ill-placed Recursion Apr 2013 #92

I don't think so... redqueen Apr 2013 #94

I liken it to people who claim they can retire anytime on their "system" Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #98

I bet the IRS loves these kinds of threads, good evidence madville Apr 2013 #87

And she is an engineering student? siligut Apr 2013 #146

I was in Costa Rica years ago and every female prostitute that approached you madville Apr 2013 #162

she works at the Cheetah wilt the stilt Apr 2013 #91

So why the boasting (and why is it even news)?? I don't get it... Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #97

Gold Club wilt the stilt Apr 2013 #102

Makes sense.... Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #104

Didn't the Govt. Go Vols Apr 2013 #108

The Gold Club Go Vols Apr 2013 #107

Are we still on strippers? Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #96

PETA suggests vegans have bigger sexual appetites in new campaign with Fallon The Straight Story Apr 2013 #99

Yeah, theyve pissed a lot of folks off with that stuff. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #101

That's not actually a "new" campaign nor suggestion... Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #106

Did they use images of sexualized, injured women back then, too? nt redqueen Apr 2013 #122

We do. n/t flvegan Apr 2013 #132

I'm holding out for a PETA stripper thread Major Nikon Apr 2013 #127

I'm holding out for a Hero Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #138

But you have to put up with disgusting men groping you. alarimer Apr 2013 #124

Good for her! flvegan Apr 2013 #133

I have a Friend that put herself Sissyk Apr 2013 #134

My fiance says the only thing she regrets about having kids Codeine Apr 2013 #140

later on, when she is an engineer Skittles Apr 2013 #144

Maybe. But just maybe she'll have... CincyDem Apr 2013 #151

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight Skittles Apr 2013 #153

Maybe. CincyDem Apr 2013 #154

But you're like DU's official ass kicker. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #155

CORRECT Skittles Apr 2013 #166

+1 Go Vols Apr 2013 #164