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Fawke Em

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62. You know what bothers me.

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 04:15 PM

Apr 2013

I'm sure I'll get flamed, but it's bothered me for a week now.

The younger brother, Jahar, is STILL being defended by his friends, he's been called "a lovely child," by one of his teachers and he seems to have not done anything more illegal than smoke a bit of dope, yet, all of a sudden he can just "flip" and allegedly join his brother on a bombing brigade?

Much like Holmes and Loughner, his alleged "deadly" transformation has come from NO WHERE. WHY is this happening? (I won't put Lanza in this category, as it seemed he had other challenges that we're not at all sure of).

I saw a video of Jahar with his niece over the weekend and he DOES seem like "a lovely child." Their exchange reminds me of my 14-year-old and his 5-year-old sister - he's sweetly picking on her, but ends up just kissing her. Maybe I'm weird, but I'm just having a really difficult time wrapping my head around the compartmentalization that Jahar must have had to do what he's accused of.

(BTW, Jahar is innocent until proven guilty or pleading guilty. I'll refrain from calling him "The Bomber" or judging him without seeing all the facts. I used to be a crime reporter and could have gotten sued for referring to someone as guilty when they have not been adjudicated as such.)

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It is very odd that Rusian Tsarni was married to Graham Fullers daughter. [View all] xiamiam Apr 2013 OP

could have been a motivating force. Schema Thing Apr 2013 #1

Do you have a point of reference for this post? MineralMan Apr 2013 #2

Maybe the article is over in Politics 2013? libodem Apr 2013 #3

A rouge? MineralMan Apr 2013 #5

I did spell that goofy I meant rogue libodem Apr 2013 #17

married to him for 3 years..why do you say briefly? nt xiamiam Apr 2013 #29

That's briefly for someone who has been married for 20. MineralMan Apr 2013 #30

a long time for someone who has never been married..nt xiamiam Apr 2013 #36

depends on the marriage Kali Apr 2013 #70

True enough. My first lasted just six months. MineralMan Apr 2013 #71

Yep. It's not the years, it's the mileage! freshwest Apr 2013 #138

Rogue. maxsolomon Apr 2013 #7

Unless you're a former Alaska Governor. MineralMan Apr 2013 #8

You can see my blush libodem Apr 2013 #19

You sure he is not more of a mauve? n/t Jamastiene Apr 2013 #141

. libodem Apr 2013 #158

Graham Fuller is ex-cia who, oddly enough, was station chief in Kabul among other Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #4

Oh, OK, so this guy from Russia was married to the man's MineralMan Apr 2013 #6

Ruslan and Fuller are effectively "made men" in the BFEE. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #10

I had to look up BFEE. More obscure references that add nothing MineralMan Apr 2013 #13

BFEE - oh right nothing odd at all happened from Gulf War I through Gulf War II. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #14

Lol, you never heard that description of the Bush family before? sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #50

That's why I looked it up. MineralMan Apr 2013 #52

Nobody at the Free Republic knows what BFEE is. bahrbearian Apr 2013 #81

Oh so clever and sneaky... MineralMan Apr 2013 #84

explained quite a bit actually..nt xiamiam Apr 2013 #86

Under every bush... MineralMan Apr 2013 #87

you had to look up BFEE? grasswire Apr 2013 #101

Ahhh - the BFEE. Was Fuller hired for the CIA by Poppy or Georgie AWOL Bush? Berlum Apr 2013 #15

BFEE = someone's imagination Coyotl Apr 2013 #122

I only wish that were true. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #124

Lol, yes as we all know, that family is an upstanding, decent, moral and ethical true patriotic sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #131

Why would you say that, Coyotl Apr 2013 #132

Why would you say that, when we all know that it is absolutely true? sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #133

They are NOT the empire, just minions of the plutocrats. Coyotl Apr 2013 #134

Who said they are 'THE Empire'??? Evil Empire, it is a phrase, it is meant to imply 'powerful' sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #137

Precisely. Jamastiene Apr 2013 #143

sounds like the same kind of shit that Oily Taintz is doing sad-cafe Apr 2013 #12

You follow Orly Taitz? sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #116

I check out her page to see what crazy she thinks of next sad-cafe Apr 2013 #118

if you are satisfied then it must be ok..lol xiamiam Apr 2013 #25

No one has to care about it, but I find it very interesting which is just my opinion of course but sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #48

Hi, there. MineralMan Apr 2013 #49

MIT cop Sean Collier was shot execution-style because terrorists �needed a gun� FarCenter Apr 2013 #54

Very odd coincidence, unless it wasn't. I wonder if he knew his routine, knew where he would be? sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #115

exactly Sabrina...is it really a connecting dot? I hope not xiamiam Apr 2013 #57

Just a side note: It's Ruslan Tsarni, not Rusian. MineralMan Apr 2013 #66

As in "Ruslan and Ludmilla Overture" by Mikhail Glinka Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2013 #100

It's certainly an interesting coincidence, xiamiam. What it means we have no idea, but now we have sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #129

If anything, Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon proves that if you go looking for connections... Taverner Apr 2013 #67

We're all connected, you know. MineralMan Apr 2013 #68

If you have connections in Oregon, then we might be related davidpdx Apr 2013 #144

Kevin Bacon has not been ruled out as a suspect. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #94

Read the links below. First is very detailed; the second is of his most famous book. freshwest Apr 2013 #119

He had his own thread here jakeXT Apr 2013 #9

See, my point is that you pop an original post in GD, MineralMan Apr 2013 #11

I so agree. Shrike47 Apr 2013 #18

Well, this one goes right into a conspiracy theory, so it MineralMan Apr 2013 #20

No minutes wasted Berlum Apr 2013 #23

at one time the Iraq war was 'conspiracy theory' Whisp Apr 2013 #27

they were married and he is his ex father in law..I have not speculated about anything..this is fact xiamiam Apr 2013 #28

What precisely (and relevant to the context) makes it appear odd to you? LanternWaste Apr 2013 #149

So, if I made a post that pointed out that John Hinkley Jr.'s father Jamastiene Apr 2013 #164

I assume that people on DU pay attention to the news..nt xiamiam Apr 2013 #33

In which news was this covered that I should be expected MineralMan Apr 2013 #34

probably not yet covered by msm but I discovered today while reading this article xiamiam Apr 2013 #39

So, it hasn't really been in the news... MineralMan Apr 2013 #40

bs about RT..what you watch is propaganda.. xiamiam Apr 2013 #46

What right do I have? Really? MineralMan Apr 2013 #47

must be difficult to gather facts if you limit your information sources xiamiam Apr 2013 #51

As you say. Apparently you also limit your sources, MineralMan Apr 2013 #53

I dont limit my information sources..I said i dont watch msm xiamiam Apr 2013 #65

I gave you Fuller's Wiki page and the link to his book on Amazon. But I don't expect a reply. freshwest Apr 2013 #120

Yeah, I'm still pretty much groping at what's happening here; guess I'm just not an "insider." NBachers Apr 2013 #140

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #16

Who the fuck is Hopsicker? MineralMan Apr 2013 #21

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #26

Katherine Russell Tsarnaev is apparently the grandaughter of Skull and Bones member FarCenter Apr 2013 #38

Ahhh, the Skull & Boner Boy-Os again. Berlum Apr 2013 #43

The necrophilia connection makes it all clear to me, now. MineralMan Apr 2013 #63

Whatever floats your boat Berlum Apr 2013 #108

OK, now that is freaky. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #85

Richard Warren Russell's wife was named Katherine FarCenter Apr 2013 #95

now that i've checked, there doesn't seem to be any connection between this russell family HiPointDem Apr 2013 #98

The Reverend Noadiah Russell, one of the founders of Yale, had 9 children FarCenter Apr 2013 #107

this family is descended from james of scotland HiPointDem Apr 2013 #112

why are you posting over and over then? nt xiamiam Apr 2013 #35

Because I'm fascinated with posts that have no references. MineralMan Apr 2013 #37

Your fear is palpable whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #41

Not at all. If I had wanted to shut it down, I would have alerted. MineralMan Apr 2013 #42

Eh... didn't you say the thread belongs in CS? whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #44

I did say that. I still think it's nonsense and a CT. MineralMan Apr 2013 #45

Yes, it is CT bullshit William Seger Apr 2013 #56

I did notice that the two posts about the Hopsicker were hidden. MineralMan Apr 2013 #59

very interesting libodem Apr 2013 #22

Meh! HappyMe Apr 2013 #24

Daughter of Ex-CIA Agent Graham Fuller Once Married to Tsarnaev Brothers' Uncle FarCenter Apr 2013 #31

Between these threads and Infowars BS Skidmore Apr 2013 #32

Ok so what does this mean in the end? hrmjustin Apr 2013 #55

It means that the Ruslan guy was married for three years to MineralMan Apr 2013 #58

well put my friend! hrmjustin Apr 2013 #60

I believe the firm of HappyMe Apr 2013 #61

LOL! MineralMan Apr 2013 #64

do you do this all day? xiamiam Apr 2013 #69

I'm taking a day off from work. Tomorrow, I start on a new MineralMan Apr 2013 #74

*gasp!* HappyMe Apr 2013 #76

Yes. I confess. I'm writing a web site for a swimming pool builder. MineralMan Apr 2013 #77

You know what is funny? Just a few days ago graham4anything Apr 2013 #157

You know what bothers me. Fawke Em Apr 2013 #62

I think that if people want to pull HappyMe Apr 2013 #73

Possible they were all Manchurian Candidates, triggered by rogue (or rouge) bottles of ketchup NoPasaran Apr 2013 #80

And what was the reason that catsup's spelling changed to ketchup? MineralMan Apr 2013 #82

Why do you think Grumpy "Cat" has been in the news lately? NoPasaran Apr 2013 #88

Aha! I knew it. See this link, too: MineralMan Apr 2013 #91

What bothers me is how quick people believe what they hear from CNN or other news sources. texanwitch Apr 2013 #96

Thanks for answering my post seriously. Fawke Em Apr 2013 #99

You are welcome. texanwitch Apr 2013 #102

Would you have so many doubts if he was from Iran or Saudi Arabia? ecstatic Apr 2013 #111

I haven't seen that video footage yet. Jamastiene Apr 2013 #163

It seems like Dzhokhar may have been veering in a direction LeftInTX Apr 2013 #139

Ooh! Ooh! I read on the internets that the uncle had business dealings with Halliburton bike man Apr 2013 #72

thanks..just googled that..lots of articles re that decade long relationship xiamiam Apr 2013 #78

Uh oh! liberalmuse Apr 2013 #75

I'm an old timer .nt xiamiam Apr 2013 #79

Conspiracy theories fester.Uncle was correct-the hatekillers were 2 losers seeking fame graham4anything Apr 2013 #83

911 was a conspiracy. watergate was a conspiracy. apparently you're ok with conspiracies HiPointDem Apr 2013 #90

Deniers of events like these have also happened since slavery, since the Holocaust too. graham4anything Apr 2013 #93

Yes, you are so right. texanwitch Apr 2013 #97

Looks like Alex Jones-style conspiracy mongers on the left have their geek tragedy Apr 2013 #89

Not really alert worthy but this certainly belongs in CS. GoneOffShore Apr 2013 #92

were the Russians tapping Mrs. Tsaernaev's phone because her son's ex- FIL... grasswire Apr 2013 #103

it is the uncles ex wife who is the daughter of the cia head graham fuller xiamiam Apr 2013 #104

I learned a lot just by posting this thread xiamiam Apr 2013 #105

The results of the creative speculaton your OP generated Turborama Apr 2013 #106

Ruslan Tsarni (Tsarnaev then) was married to Samantha Ankara Fuller, daughter of Graham Fuller, CIA FarCenter Apr 2013 #109

I don't need correcting about who married who, and the rest is just speculation ETA Turborama Apr 2013 #113

Boston terror suspects uncle was married to CIA officer's daughter and even shared a home with the a FarCenter Apr 2013 #117

OK, thanks for the link Turborama Apr 2013 #121

So the Russian warning was ignored because they are relatives of our friend Ruslan. FarCenter Apr 2013 #123

Ah, so that's your conspiracy theory. Thanks for answering. n/t Turborama Apr 2013 #125

what this all means is anyones guess..speculating is one thing xiamiam Apr 2013 #128

The post I was replying to was obviously a theory about a conspiracy. n/t Turborama Apr 2013 #130

Perhaps somebody is trying to make the case that you are engaged in wild ct speculation Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #146

You are not kidding. texanwitch Apr 2013 #110

she's not the granddaughter of the founder of s&b & no one said that. she's granddaughter of HiPointDem Apr 2013 #114

sorry..guess I misread one of the posts on this thread xiamiam Apr 2013 #126

it was mine, & i didn't say that. just want to make that clear. i just noted that the founder of HiPointDem Apr 2013 #127

when I saw S&B and the Russell name... grasswire Apr 2013 #136

Don't worry about the usual suspects who try to squash all discussion of facts whenever sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #135

Baloney. I've never seen ANYONE fitting that description called a "conspiracy theorist" William Seger Apr 2013 #142

It's happening right on this thread Fumesucker Apr 2013 #145

+1 Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #147

Baloney William Seger Apr 2013 #148

I do think it's interesting, like I think W's cousin calling the 2000 election on Fox interesting Fumesucker Apr 2013 #151

lets hope those who are investigating this are a bit more curious xiamiam Apr 2013 #152

Let's hope that those who are investigating this William Seger Apr 2013 #154

I haven't seen any accusations or theories..I have seen legitimate connections which raise questions xiamiam Apr 2013 #156

Exactly the same kind of "legitimate connections" that Glen Beck uses (n/t) William Seger Apr 2013 #167

what are you talking about? say something legitimate xiamiam Apr 2013 #169

they've already made unfounded accusations, what are you talking about. like the young one HiPointDem Apr 2013 #161

i was talking about speculation in this thread xiamiam Apr 2013 #162

"They" who? And what does that have to do with the topic? (n/t) William Seger Apr 2013 #165

read your own bloody post HiPointDem Apr 2013 #166

Those accusations were made by the authorities investigating? William Seger Apr 2013 #168

I have not seen anyone do more than comment on the FACT that this is an interesting piece sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #150

Well, I have William Seger Apr 2013 #153

So now if someone finds a story 'interesting' they are a CT. This is what I meant, thanks for sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #155

I already gave you my definition of CTist, William Seger Apr 2013 #160

I agree. H2O Man Apr 2013 #159