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20. The ad was weird and puzzling, but I didn't think it offensive.

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 10:57 PM

Feb 2012

What am I missing? The description I read said the girl spoke with a - I forget how it was described, but something like a broken English reminescent of how slaves have been depicted talking in movies. When I saw it, I didn't think that. She's not supposed to be an American Asian, right? She is supposedly a Chinese person, who lives in China? So a Chinese person would speak with an accent, wouldn't she? I didn't think the English was that broken, even. I couldn't detect any brokenness to it until her 2nd sentence or so. And that was minimal...she just left out a verb or something. Or was there more that I missed?

But I only saw it the one time, so maybe I missed something. I thought it was just a weird, ineffective ad.

If there were an ad showing a French citizen speaking in English, s/he'd have a French accent, right?

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What level of comtenpt should be leveled at the actor in the racist Hoekstra ad? [View all] snagglepuss Feb 2012 OP

None, imo; elleng Feb 2012 #1

Why do you assume she needed the job? She could easily be be someone who has snagglepuss Feb 2012 #2

No particular reason, other than general economic malaise; elleng Feb 2012 #6

All actors / actresses need a job... reACTIONary Feb 2012 #21

Yes. Lawrence discussing this now, elleng Feb 2012 #39

Did you ever see the Robert Townsend movie, "Hollywood Shuffle?" FSogol Feb 2012 #3

No snagglepuss Feb 2012 #4

highly recommended... ..n/t annabanana Feb 2012 #11

Agreed. n/t FSogol Feb 2012 #15

It explains that actor perfectly. n/t FSogol Feb 2012 #14

LOL. I give this movie . . . RZM Feb 2012 #34

Multiple High Fives! FSogol Feb 2012 #37

not really worth it, Hoekstra is the politician, the public figure, it's his ad JI7 Feb 2012 #5

I see your point but she being Asian would have to know how insulting the ad is. snagglepuss Feb 2012 #10

"Would have to?" Bicoastal Feb 2012 #19

Now who's doing the sterotyping B2G Feb 2012 #63

Zero amounts. Iggo Feb 2012 #7

She's somebody who needed a paycheck Warpy Feb 2012 #8

We don't know that. She may be part of the 1% and simply snagglepuss Feb 2012 #13

and we don't know that either. i'll give her the benefit of the doubt. most actors have nothing... spanone Feb 2012 #57

It would depend - is she a republican acting out her beliefs csziggy Feb 2012 #9

Most beginning actors can't afford to turn down jobs that aren't porn. Cleita Feb 2012 #58

I feel uncomfortable doing any deep digging into the lives of bit actors... Bicoastal Feb 2012 #12

So if an actor who needed money did blackface it'd be okay? Money trumps all? snagglepuss Feb 2012 #17

Short answer? Pretty much... Bicoastal Feb 2012 #29

So if a white actress did the part with help of make-up, you wouldn't take issue? snagglepuss Feb 2012 #32

IF. Yeah, and what about IF she did it topless in a fright wig with a bone through her nose? Bicoastal Feb 2012 #36

The question is hardly stupid. You claim the actress should not be criticized because she is acting snagglepuss Feb 2012 #38

"she was WILLING to play the part of a Chinese worker?" Bicoastal Feb 2012 #42

You're avoidiing the question. snagglepuss Feb 2012 #44

True. nt Bicoastal Feb 2012 #46

LOL!!!! JoePhilly Feb 2012 #60

What if the actor was playing a historical role and it involved black face as Cleita Feb 2012 #61

That is a different context. The question I raised pertains to a political ad not a drama. snagglepuss Feb 2012 #66

Zero. She is an actress. Bonobo Feb 2012 #16

Hoestra doesn't think it's racist either. My response to that is best summed up by the snagglepuss Feb 2012 #22

Yeah, well I disagree. It's often the case Bonobo Feb 2012 #26

The ad has Kenton Ngo's blood boiling. snagglepuss Feb 2012 #30

She has no special accent, except maybe Southern California. :>)) pangaia Feb 2012 #43

The labor market for actors is too good. dogknob Feb 2012 #18

The ad was weird and puzzling, but I didn't think it offensive. Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #20

Did you see Hoekstra's webpage? Ian David Feb 2012 #23

Thx. I watched it again on his site. I get it. Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #24

But if she is supposed to portray a Chinese in China, why would she NOT have an accent? nt Bonobo Feb 2012 #28

It's not the accent that's the problem. It's the wrong pronouns used... Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #31

yeah, I agree. Bad script. Bonobo Feb 2012 #35

Kenton Ngo's Daily Kos comment which prompted the OP clearly sums up why it's os offensive. snagglepuss Feb 2012 #27

Little to none blogslut Feb 2012 #25

none, just leave her out of it Motown_Johnny Feb 2012 #33

Fake Outrage Baby Bear Feb 2012 #40

Why fake outrage? snagglepuss Feb 2012 #41

Level Zero. JoePhilly Feb 2012 #45

So police clobbering protestors should be left alone becasue they're doing their jobs? snagglepuss Feb 2012 #47

Yea, that's what I said. JoePhilly Feb 2012 #54

You made a blanket statement, now you are backtracking. snagglepuss Feb 2012 #67

Slippery slope elias7 Feb 2012 #48

None he's trying to say that his apponent will send jobs to the gooks. I so howny, I give you boom, Monk06 Feb 2012 #49

You're assuming the actor knew what the spot would be used for justiceischeap Feb 2012 #50

What? HappyMe Feb 2012 #51

So you'd have no problem if a black actor was in an ad featuring a snagglepuss Feb 2012 #53

I am becoming more and more impressed with these strawmen. JoePhilly Feb 2012 #55

Might i suggest you review the meaning of a strawman, before using it. snagglepuss Feb 2012 #65

She should have been paid triple... SomethingFishy Feb 2012 #52

+1 JoePhilly Feb 2012 #56

hope she was paid well and that the check cleared already dembotoz Feb 2012 #59

Kill her! She probably took the job from an American (white) actor Obama3_16 Feb 2012 #62

She should be embarrassed and ashamed of herself mainer Feb 2012 #64