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22. And therein lies the problem (and a much deeper one)

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 04:59 PM

Apr 2013

We now expect things will be stolen. We expect kids to act in a certain way - ie given the chance to steal or hurt others they will.

Just like in society now where everyone is a potential terrorist, gun owners are inches away from going ballistic and killing people, etc.

We expect the worst from us all we get that propped up daily by the news which covers the few out of the many.

A deeper issue that is a highly sensitive topic: If you were to leave a gun in your car (say at school, in shopping mall, or in my hood which has a high crime/theft rate) and somebody stole it.....well, what do you think advice would be for people?

Don't do things like that? It is not blaming the victim, but it is pointing out facts to say that if you leave a gun in your car and it is unlocked chances are pretty good someone will steal it, so take preventative measures.

People say don't let kids walk around school with knives and guns, to prevent accidents and idiots from harming others - that is not blaming the people who might be victims but is an attempt at common sense given the society we live in (and even when dad took his guns to school they were in a locker or car until needed).

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I am old enough to remember when kids were allowed to actually bring guns to school [View all] arely staircase Apr 2013 OP

I'm 48... Wait Wut Apr 2013 #1

So am I, and my husband took a rifle to school for Rifle Team REP Apr 2013 #65

I'm almost 60... mike_c Apr 2013 #2

recess back in the day BainsBane Apr 2013 #46

lol eom arely staircase Apr 2013 #78

in my 40's ProdigalJunkMail Apr 2013 #3

Guns and knives were common at my high school madville Apr 2013 #4

I am 74 and I do not ever remember guns being RebelOne Apr 2013 #5

Well, that doesn't give much credence to your "#1 rebel" handle, does it? ret5hd Apr 2013 #31

And what do you mean by that remark? RebelOne Apr 2013 #59

What! No red hair? n/t oneshooter Apr 2013 #68

"legal to drive down the road drinking a beer if you were at least 18." alp227 Apr 2013 #6

i agree on all points arely staircase Apr 2013 #9

In the city of Phoenix it was the same way. Rifles in the back window. All the boys brough knives. MellowYellow Apr 2013 #7

even if you didn't have to worry today about a shooting arely staircase Apr 2013 #8

Well you would think schools would have security cameras The Straight Story Apr 2013 #12

yeah and everyone could sit around later and watch the video of their gun being stolen arely staircase Apr 2013 #13

And therein lies the problem (and a much deeper one) The Straight Story Apr 2013 #22

i get your point but arely staircase Apr 2013 #25

Where I would begin: The Straight Story Apr 2013 #35

i don't disagree with any of that, especially this part arely staircase Apr 2013 #69

Probably yes. But back then they weren't stolen, and that was befor cameras were MellowYellow Apr 2013 #45

That is a question I have asked many times over that no one really answers The Straight Story Apr 2013 #11

yes the people changed arely staircase Apr 2013 #15

You must not have lived in the south, KKK and yahoos weren't nice people -- and guns were common. Hoyt Apr 2013 #27

Hmmmm The Straight Story Apr 2013 #30

Fact is, guns enable/embolden callous people. Hoyt Apr 2013 #43

Yeah, well The Straight Story Apr 2013 #51

weeding those people out is correct arely staircase Apr 2013 #77

Your views on guns are scewed by your Jenoch Apr 2013 #89

A whole bunch are. Hoyt May 2013 #92

Yep. And that is why you are unable to help Jenoch May 2013 #93

Pretty accurate actually. Hoyt May 2013 #94

That is an excellent question. bighart Apr 2013 #47

For some reason no one wants to debate this issue. Maybe they know they won't like what they see MellowYellow Apr 2013 #55

"Trayvon Martin hit Zimmerman." ieoeja Apr 2013 #24

Kids used to get paddled for bad behavior back then as well but then came the law suits Bandit Apr 2013 #33

Cardozo High School (DC) girls' rifle team Recursion Apr 2013 #10

Some people are still bringing guns to school MineralMan Apr 2013 #14

the only news any of the kids with guns at school back then made arely staircase Apr 2013 #17

I am 64 and never saw a kid with a gun in school HockeyMom Apr 2013 #16

Thought you might like this: The Straight Story Apr 2013 #18

It was pretty common to see gun racks in pick-ups parked on campus at TAMU in the 80's HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #19

i remember the axe handle accessory too arely staircase Apr 2013 #29

I'm a good bit older than that, and I remember when the bigots had guns in their cars. Hoyt Apr 2013 #20

Bigots still have guns in their cars. mwrguy Apr 2013 #34

And there was also recess, where kids could pick their own teams, and play dodge ball, and bike man Apr 2013 #21

I can remember going with my dad to buy dynamite at the hardware store. MindPilot Apr 2013 #23

Two spots in the rack Fla_Democrat Apr 2013 #26

It was common in rural Minnesota Jenoch Apr 2013 #28

not in Minneapolis BainsBane Apr 2013 #38

I'm sure it was. Jenoch Apr 2013 #40

Very true BainsBane Apr 2013 #41

I grew up in rural Minnesota but Jenoch Apr 2013 #50

My point is that the gun lobby BainsBane Apr 2013 #57

The Minnesota courts banned gun bans Jenoch Apr 2013 #60

Who waged the suit? BainsBane Apr 2013 #67

You might be on to something, Jenoch Apr 2013 #70

Same in Nevada, premium Apr 2013 #86

No, it wasn't a rural vs. urban thing. I went to school in Phoenix and Austin. I'm MellowYellow Apr 2013 #54

Could it be that Control-Z Apr 2013 #56

Which again begs the question WHY? What changed? Why weren't kids with guns and often times MellowYellow Apr 2013 #58

The obvious reasons Control-Z Apr 2013 #61

Because it is not the same world now. nt Stretch714 Apr 2013 #62

Why? Half-Century Man Apr 2013 #80

Same in rural Nevada, premium Apr 2013 #84

Minnesota law always required the guns Jenoch Apr 2013 #88

I grew up in Dallas and I never saw kids bringing guns into school. If I had, my mother CTyankee Apr 2013 #32

I grew up in Duncanville OriginalGeek Apr 2013 #39

Suburban Dallas in the late 50s early 60s was not rural. I am talking about Highland Park CTyankee Apr 2013 #48

I always thought of us as living on the edge of city life OriginalGeek Apr 2013 #52

what years are we talking about? eom arely staircase Apr 2013 #81

late 40s to late 50s. CTyankee May 2013 #95

I remember when kids were allowed to bring their necessary medicine to school BlueStreak Apr 2013 #36

East Texas is not the rest of America BainsBane Apr 2013 #37

Same thing here Go Vols Apr 2013 #42

Even today in some rural areas newfie11 Apr 2013 #44

Yep PD Turk Apr 2013 #49

I lived in a So Cal beach town in High School (mid '60's). I remember all the surf boards lined up.. Tikki Apr 2013 #53

Remember the folding Buck knives in the leather carry case on the belt? newmember Apr 2013 #63

My second grade teacher brought the musket carried by her great-grandfather in the Civil War... Marengo Apr 2013 #64

My high school had a shooting range in the basement. baldguy Apr 2013 #66

If there was an open season... hootinholler Apr 2013 #71

There are still high school rifle teams nessa Apr 2013 #72

It happened during hunting season, but not really any other time. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #73

i don't remember a collective hard-on for para-military weapons back then either arely staircase Apr 2013 #74

I really don't Go Vols Apr 2013 #75

definitely, at least were i come from arely staircase Apr 2013 #79

You would have been considered an antisocialist,maladjusted kid to Old and In the Way Apr 2013 #76

Pretty common in rural Georgia of course. TampaAnimusVortex Apr 2013 #82

We actually had the school provide guns Sgent Apr 2013 #83

We never were allowed guns in school but Jennicut Apr 2013 #85

That must have been a pretty rural area union_maid Apr 2013 #87

Day before deer season opened: loaded gun racks. Lots and lots and lots of gun racks. Occulus Apr 2013 #90

There was a time in America when you could bring your slave to school olddots May 2013 #91