Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
40. No, this was a case the SCOTUS
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 04:36 PM
Apr 2013

had no business in. Bugliosi goes into great detail about how the Scalia 5 pissed on every prior ruling they had made on the 14th Amendment and "state's rights". Scalia in particular (with O'Connor often concurring) hammered that the rules of how votes are counted are STRICTLY a state matter, not a federal one, and certainly NOT a federal court.

The actions taken by O'Connor et al, crossed the line into actual treason. And Bugliosi is no "left-wing hippy", he is an establishment Republican and a successful prosecutor (he put the Manson Family in jail). Bugliosi' was moved to write the book when he complained about Bush v. Gore to colleagues who agreed with him, but said that since the "right guy" won, no harm, no foul.

So, when you commit treason and appoint a guy president who later turns out to be a war criminal, I think I am being more than fair in saying she has blood on her hands which will not wash off with a half-assed expression of regret.

They decided Bush had standing and set that precedent.


No, they specifically state in their ruling that their ruling ONLY applies to this case, Bush getting handed the election by the SCOTUS in 2000:

"Our consideration is limited to the present circumstances, for the problem of equal protection in election processes generally presents many complexities."


Translation: Don't try this with any Democrats, we will rule against you the other way.

And let's not forget the conflict of interest and nakedly partisan comments:

On the eve of the election Sandra Day O'Connor had made a public statement that a Gore victory would be a personal disaster for her. Clarence Thomas' wife was so intimately involved in the Bush campaign that she was helping to draw up a list of Bush appointees more or less at the same time as her husband was adjudicating on whether the same man would become the next President. Finally, Antonin Scalia's son was working for the firm appointed by Bush to argue his case before the Supreme Court, the head of which was subsequently appointed as Solictor-General.


Stephen Foster
The Judiciary, Civil Liberties and Human Rights

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Sorry, the blood Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #1
Now that's unfair treestar Apr 2013 #3
tell that to the dead warrior1 Apr 2013 #5
Logic is not suspended due to someone's death treestar Apr 2013 #10
She suspended logic in determining a life and death position, frivolously. Festivito Apr 2013 #14
How could it have been a life and death decision? treestar Apr 2013 #16
It was a life and death decision, anytime one branch of government, Uncle Joe Apr 2013 #19
* didn't get us into any wars because of 9/11 Nevernose Apr 2013 #24
She overruled the express will of the people Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #8
If she voted for Bush, she may be responsible treestar Apr 2013 #11
Read Vincet Bugliosi's article in The Nation Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #20
That's arguing the case treestar Apr 2013 #33
No, this was a case the SCOTUS Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #40
but this was an ILLEGAL ruling, not a legal ruling grasswire Apr 2013 #32
Where is the authority for that? treestar Apr 2013 #34
the power is in the Constitution grasswire Apr 2013 #35
Makes the same sense as when they say Roe v. Wade is an illegal ruling treestar Apr 2013 #36
No, it isn't her fault, she just had a vote on the Supreme Court. Who the blame is some 18 year old TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #9
Her vote on the Supreme Court is behind a legal opinion treestar Apr 2013 #12
Yes, it's something far worse jeff47 Apr 2013 #37
Bingo! Rex Apr 2013 #44
Contrition is easy in hindsight. marmar Apr 2013 #2
Oh, well then, all is forgiven... russspeakeasy Apr 2013 #4
REALLY Justice Occonor??!!!! This decision was one of many that helped turn the USSC into a joke!! uponit7771 Apr 2013 #6
It looks like.... NCTraveler Apr 2013 #7
It only took her how many years of therapy to reach that conclusion? leveymg Apr 2013 #13
Translation - "I fucked you all but I feel bad about it, if that makes a difference" tjwash Apr 2013 #15
Why is her vote the deciding one as opposed to the other four treestar Apr 2013 #17
She is the one currently expressing guilt over her vote. jeff47 Apr 2013 #38
Yeah, stirred up the public a bit mokawanis Apr 2013 #18
"Thanks a pantload for 8 years of FAIL, Sandra" - The Citizens of these United States Berlum Apr 2013 #21
Sandra Day O'Connor has to take personal responsibility AZ Progressive Apr 2013 #22
Hindsight is always 20/20... one_voice Apr 2013 #23
Hey, Dick fucking Tracey. nt rrneck Apr 2013 #25
Bush V. Gore = worst SCOTUS decision ever, worst president ever. Initech Apr 2013 #26
Wasn't she the one who was opposed to a Gore presidency? Baitball Blogger Apr 2013 #27
Yeah, Justice O'Connor, some of us have been regretting your decision since you made it. AndyA Apr 2013 #28
^^this^^ nt LaydeeBug Apr 2013 #29
Bush would still have been President SlipperySlope Apr 2013 #30
No, that scenario wouldn't have went to the Supreme Court, it would've been up to Congress Uncle Joe Apr 2013 #31
Thanks for the proper interpretation. El Supremo Apr 2013 #41
Except that it wasn't going to continue to drag out in the courts jeff47 Apr 2013 #39
Doesn't matter, history doesn't care about your regrets. Rex Apr 2013 #42
With all due respect Justice O'Conner.....fuck you. MrSlayer Apr 2013 #43
"Less that perfect reputation" is an understatement. Marr Apr 2013 #45
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»After Casting Key Fifth V...»Reply #40