Are we doing ourselves any favors repeating this 90% number?

[rrneck]

107. Well, lets play "quote the text". It's tedious, but sometimes necessary.

Gun owners are not the same as gun dealers. Most of those 80 million gun owners are not furiously buying and selling guns.

Yes, but if you add a whole shitload, and I mean millions, of gun owners who now will have no incentive to carefully examine the buyer since you have removed that responsibility and taken it on yourself through universal background checks it will only take those millions of gun owners, selling one gun each, to bury any benefit the background checks would offer. Like I said, it will be a straw buyers market.

When we talk about guns for protection, you do know that gun owners or their family members are much more likely to be injured than protected by the guns.

Nobody cares. Given the remote chance of injury from an object over which the owner has control and exigent circumstances that pose a danger over which he or she has no control, any prudent person will choose the former every time. And then likely go vote for a Republican because the Democrats seem to be playing the odds with their lives.

The majority want universal background checks to become law.

For now. If you don't come up with a way to make it work that won't last long.

I am not answerable to you or the NRA as to my reasons.

You are if you want to win elections.

You would deny that my reasons exist

Well, I certainly haven't seen any yet that made any sense.

Now I didn't make an analogy between gun and car dealers.

Neither did I. I pointed out the difference between the uses of both, which informs the laws that govern them. Are you ready to avoid a frank and rational discussion about the public carraige of firearms, or do you agree that most cars operate on public roads and most guns are stored on private property? Better yet, why don't you go to a gun store and see if the proprietor will loan you a gun. Let me know how you do.

Finally and separately, how could even a gun nut attribute consumerism to anything I said?

Because you haven't given it any thought and you won't admit it. You're exhibiting all the symptoms of product loyalty. Ideologies are products, just like tennis shoes. You have bought yours because you think it looks good on you. Why don't you test it out in the real world and see how it works?

As far as straw buyers, if they violate the law they should be called to account.

I agree. Now, how do you plan to see to it that they are called to account and prosecuted for their crimes? Be specific and show your work.