I hear people on DU say those with CWP rarely use their guns to shoot others

[freshwest]

77. You nailed it. Fiefdoms like Belle Isle, Independence Park, the Citadel, to name a few of them.

Where they make their own guns, put all the kids in church schools, don't pay any taxes, nor follow any state laws. Enter and exit by their rules, walled off from the public.

In the future they'd end up having to raid the surrounding countryside like the old robber barons did. The heads of the movement are modern day robber barons who want the state destroyed that stands in the way of their taking more plunder. Human rights, civil liberties, property rights will go poof at the barrel of a gun.

The all government is BAD crew don't realize what the end result will be. They don't want to work through anything, they want to leave society, let it all break down and figure they will have Liberty©. They have not thought it through. They will be sitting so pretty then, subject to the whims of a petty dictator with no limitations.

This is why this bunch never gets excited about minority rights, voters rights, any of that old stuff. Discrimination will be explained away, no longer will that matter. Freedom isn't an issue in that society. You're free to submit or die. Period.