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Douglas Carpenter

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44. Hillary is at this time unqestionably the front runner for both the nomination and the Presidency

Reply to graham4anything (Original post)

Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:16 PM

Apr 2013

itself. But a lot can happen between now and then:

1. She might for her own reasons decide not to run.

2. AS she is aging there are of course always the possibility of health or personal issues which could come up before 2016.

3. Though she is undoubtedly in the lead for the Democratic nomination now - but a currently lesser known candidate could develop a following over night once the primary season starts rolling.

4. There is always a possibility of some real or cooked up scandal or unfortunate slip of the tongue compromising any candidate

5. She could win the nomination fair and square but lose the general election. Although demographics certainly favor the Democrats and most likely will continue to favor them for some time - A weak economy, rumors of scandal , a sense of malaise or just boredom can cause the Republicans to win. If they have the right candidate that simply catches on and gets favorable press - they could certainly have an excellent shot at it.

Nothing is certain in politics or in life

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Hillary overwhelming 2016 favorite in new poll, Jeb tied for first in Republican one.-F.D. poll [View all] graham4anything Apr 2013 OP

Gore was leading in his polls also. Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #1

I am a Democratic voter 100% of the time, and I want Hillary. I am the people graham4anything Apr 2013 #2

DLCers will ensure they lose again to any putz the GOP throws out there. Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #3

There are not enough voters in the nation to deny all of President Obama & 2 President Clinton graham4anything Apr 2013 #4

Sad to say it will never happen. Since you are living in pony land Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #8

we need to save your post okieinpain May 2013 #101

Are you forgetting leftynyc May 2013 #115

Hillary is popular; Gore was not brooklynite May 2013 #118

Yep! What you said... Kahuna Apr 2013 #63

I think that is a fair statement. NCTraveler May 2013 #100

you should really read about her and Honduras. Whisp Apr 2013 #10

conspiracy theories. Same old same old. graham4anything Apr 2013 #33

it's AP news. I can give you links but Whisp Apr 2013 #55

conspiracy theory accusation with no substance when faced with facts. Same old same old. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #86

Hillary is the single most qualified candidate before being President since LBJ. graham4anything May 2013 #94

It actually took a Clinton AND a Perot to beat a Bush. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #31

Look Robbins Apr 2013 #46

Democratic voters want Hillary. President Obama fans want Hillary. That is 90=% of party. graham4anything Apr 2013 #53

2016 Robbins Apr 2013 #57

I have talked to the strongest feminist democrats in MO loyalsister May 2013 #117

Hillary is beloved in much of the party. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #78

Doesn't matter what chunk of the party thinks. Arctic Dave May 2013 #87

Well we just disagree on that. hrmjustin May 2013 #109

Bill Bradley didn't win a single state Renew Deal May 2013 #126

2016 is a very long way off (in politics) etherealtruth Apr 2013 #5

Mario Rubio, Jeb Bush, Rick Santorum ???? Good Grief Repulicans, Is this the best you... BlueJazz Apr 2013 #6

Eisenhower was the prototype that Reagan later imitated. Smart? LOL. He was a warmonger. graham4anything Apr 2013 #9

Interesting. H2O Man Apr 2013 #12

Oh...I agree with everything you say. I still say that someone like Ike would be far preferable... BlueJazz Apr 2013 #18

Mighty early yet. H2O Man Apr 2013 #7

What could possibly happen in 3 1/2 years? frazzled Apr 2013 #11

We need all of President Obama's and Hillary Clinton's fans (about 95% of dem party)to vote 2014 graham4anything Apr 2013 #13

"Fans". Justin Bieber has fans. djean111 Apr 2013 #34

Taylor Swift, democratic voter, could do very well to harness her fans to support democratic party graham4anything Apr 2013 #35

I hereby crown you Emperor of non sequiturs. djean111 Apr 2013 #36

Another adhominem. graham4anything Apr 2013 #37

how long has the country been ruled by bushes or clintons? no more. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #14

That is unfair to women to say Hillary can't be President just because her husband was. graham4anything Apr 2013 #15

It's not sexist leftstreet Apr 2013 #19

Didn't you like Jerry Brown? graham4anything Apr 2013 #20

So you're saying you'd support Sarah Palin? leftstreet Apr 2013 #22

Why? I only vote for democratic candidates for president 100% of the time. graham4anything Apr 2013 #25

Isn't that unfair to women? leftstreet Apr 2013 #28

I only vote for Democratic candidates. I am not one who voted for Ralph Nader & Republicans graham4anything Apr 2013 #29

I could never vote for Jerry Brown Bucky May 2013 #105

What is unfair to women and everyone else is ramrodding another corporatist stooge through TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #24

it is not sexist, that is ridiculous. Whisp Apr 2013 #61

Her character? You have been brainwashed by Evergreen Emerald May 2013 #103

she talks about human rights a lot Whisp May 2013 #110

so....the sequister is Michelle's fault? Evergreen Emerald May 2013 #120

Very seriously Honduras. Whisp May 2013 #121

I don't think that's what's being said. Renew Deal May 2013 #128

I'm getting sick of it too. It's also embarrassing. reformist2 Apr 2013 #16

Is Obama a Bush or a Clinton? hay rick Apr 2013 #48

What if the choice is Bush's and Clintons? Renew Deal May 2013 #127

Nothing quite like dynastic procession 1-Old-Man Apr 2013 #17

Did you or do you like Jerry brown? graham4anything Apr 2013 #21

Do you like Jerry brown or JFK? graham4anything Apr 2013 #23

Which is probably the best indication yet that neither one will be a candidate in 2016! hedgehog Apr 2013 #26

Rubio & Bush !? ... They're just too good to us. lpbk2713 Apr 2013 #27

It's going to be Clinton vs Guillianni Capt. Obvious Apr 2013 #30

Guillianni is pro-choice and is against opposing marriage equality. That makes it impossible Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #38

I think you missed his "obvious" snark davidpdx Apr 2013 #65

ah... sarcasm is sometimes wasted on me Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #68

D�j� vu -- and again about the 2008 Presidential race. LiberalAndProud May 2013 #96

Personally, i'd like to see Elizabeth Warren rurallib Apr 2013 #32

You, me, and about half of DU would like to see Elizabeth Warren. nt Zorra Apr 2013 #84

Wow I knew who posted this before opening Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #39

like who? graham4anything Apr 2013 #40

Personally I can think of three candidates Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #45

You can't be serious. This party will neither nominate, nor vote for a House member for POTUS. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #49

why try again Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #54

Because it doesn't work that way. RudynJack Apr 2013 #62

Of course you're grandstanding I mean anyone who runs is. Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #64

But he wouldn't win the necessary number of primaries. RudynJack Apr 2013 #69

What do you think Obama's national name recognition was in 2005? That stuff is like cookies Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #73

Actually RudynJack Apr 2013 #74

That's it exactly. Any potential national candidate needs to show he/she can win..... Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #92

Obama is one of just 3 sitting Senators to be elected President, first since JFK. Not great odds. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #70

True RudynJack Apr 2013 #72

As a former first lady, HRC would never have run for a House seat. Get real. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #85

Oh yeah, I'm a "blind supporter/worshipper" of Hillary. Google me. Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #88

I will apologize without the use of Google first Arcanetrance May 2013 #89

No Harm. No Foul. Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #90

And I love RudynJack May 2013 #93

As I did with the other poster I do apologize for name calling Arcanetrance May 2013 #111

"The Distinquished Gentleman" (Eddie Murphy movie) said it quite well "Vote for the name you bike man Apr 2013 #41

3rd Way Manny will be pleased. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #42

Yes, he also wants a woman President (though his choice voted for Reagan in 1980). graham4anything Apr 2013 #43

so what? nobody cares what she believed back in 1980. Hillary however was part of an administration Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #47

I voted for Jimmy Carter. All democratic voters in 1980 should have graham4anything Apr 2013 #52

Sen. Warren used to lean Republican but changed her mind. I think that is a good thing Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #56

Well Robbins Apr 2013 #58

Damn right. I voted for Gore. Nader and NH's 4 electoral votes cost the election graham4anything May 2013 #95

Manny? Manny who? Bucky May 2013 #106

Hillary is at this time unqestionably the front runner for both the nomination and the Presidency Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #44

"Nothing is certain in politics or in life". What is certain is that if HRC runs, she wins. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #51

I agree Robbins Apr 2013 #59

Exactly. And as someone mentioned upthread, HRC puts more than a couple.... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #79

Hillary, the war chick RILib Apr 2013 #50

Hell, we'll be in a couple of them by 2016 from what is sounds. What we'll need is someone Purveyor Apr 2013 #77

as much as I hate president Jeb DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #60

Hillary was the favorite in 2005. Recovered Repug Apr 2013 #66

It worked out fine, as she will be serving 8 years as President and graham4anything May 2013 #98

... SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #67

We need to focus on 2014. THEN we can talk about 2016. jazzimov Apr 2013 #71

These articles always bring the predictable response. Beacool Apr 2013 #75

Oh, the delicious irony. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #81

What a sad reason to vote for someone 'to see heads explode on the right and left'. But sabrina 1 May 2013 #99

Middle, I don't like the extremes. Beacool May 2013 #119

Warmongers are bad for the country.. THAT is fanaticism. Voting to irritate people, is definitely sabrina 1 May 2013 #122

The Left is a minority in the party. Beacool May 2013 #123

The Left is a majority in the country. Thanks for bringing right wing 'trash the left' talking point sabrina 1 May 2013 #125

When polls are conducted, most people consider themselves to be moderate. Beacool May 2013 #129

I met Hillary and liked her very much, then. She changed. I don't dislike politicians, they are not sabrina 1 May 2013 #130

Who the hell else do we have that can challenge the 'chosen'? Seriously. eom Purveyor Apr 2013 #76

Too soon to call. Baitball Blogger Apr 2013 #80

And we're ... what? ... 110 days after Obama's inauguration? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #82

Nothin against Hillary XVI_Eyes May 2013 #91

She's a solid bet if she wants it....hopefully she wants it Rowdyboy May 2013 #97

This is a great point. Until we can do something about Citizens United, we need to somehow hold the stevenleser May 2013 #113

we're probably better off with jeb as president RedstDem May 2013 #102

Um, no. Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #107

You forgot to use the "I didn't think this one through" tag on you post. Bucky May 2013 #108

yuk yuk yuk RedstDem May 2013 #112

Of course, many want to see Jeb as president. They are the majority of the anti-Obama crew graham4anything May 2013 #116

I'll do everything I can to help elect Hillary! In_The_Wind May 2013 #104

Good for her. That's even better than she was polling in 2005. hughee99 May 2013 #114

We can do so much better than Hillary. Apophis May 2013 #124

you want someone way left? One can travel so way left, that they bump into way right graham4anything May 2013 #131

... Apophis May 2013 #132

you gotta admit, the 80-20 is the best thing I have thought of in months. graham4anything May 2013 #133