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In reply to the discussion: This Is What Saudi Arabia's First PSA For Violence Against Women Looks Like [View all]LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)128. I started to read the second article in your list.
At the second essay, I realized I wasn't the intended audience. From a western perspective, as I watch nuns and clergywomen in our Christian churches continue to struggle for equal footing, I'm afraid I have an anti-religious bias that may cloud my perception. The idea of rebelling against the bad parts of any given dogma in an effort to retain the -- I don't know -- is it the security of believing that we understand our universe that religion offers? Truly, having relinquished that in my own path, I don't think I can be swayed that women working within the framework of a misogynistic belief system is bound to be very successful in the end. There are always those pesky passages that we just can't explain away.
But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the husband is the head of his wife, and God is the head of Christ. Any man who prays or prophesies with something on his head disgraces his head, but any woman who prays or prophesies with her head unveiled disgraces her head--it is one and the same thing as having her head shaved. For if a woman will not veil herself, then she should cut off her hair; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or to be shaved, she should wear a veil. For a man ought not to have his head veiled, since he is the image and reflection of God; but woman is the reflection of man. Indeed, man was not made from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for the sake of woman, but woman for the sake of man. For this reason a woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.
1 Corinthians 11:3-10
1 Corinthians 11:3-10
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This Is What Saudi Arabia's First PSA For Violence Against Women Looks Like [View all]
The Straight Story
Apr 2013
OP
The culturally imperialist attitude toward Islam is influence by neoconcervativsm
BainsBane
Apr 2013
#39
Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot came to prominence because they were treated as deities.
Gravitycollapse
Apr 2013
#43
You obviously couldn't be bothered to read the articles, or even their titles
BainsBane
Apr 2013
#73
No, you clearly implied that Raindog "doesn't care about murder" unless it is done by a religion.
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2013
#109
I actually figured it was going to get hid! Amazing. A shout out to DUers!
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#119
Making a criticism of one thing does not intrinsically imply "not caring" about another.
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2013
#127
Are you drunk!? Raindog has been one of the MOST compassionate DU posters
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#101
How do you know Raindog has "steadfastly refused" to consider what Muslim women write?
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#104
As a feminist who has no reservations about lecturing others about what they deem as "sexist",
pacalo
May 2013
#155
So because Raindog didn't agree with you, you decide to make shit up. You did.
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#107
She visited the United Arab Emerates and met women from across the Middle East.
LiberalAndProud
Apr 2013
#121
Well that is your best post in the whole thread we agree on some things:
The Straight Story
Apr 2013
#137
Oddly enough, these "blankets over the head" and "beekeeper suits" are not prescribed in the Qu'ran.
MADem
May 2013
#196
And again, here you are just making stuff up out of thin air about DU members.
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2013
#129
That stance assumes that all women in the Muslim world want the same thing.
antigone382
Apr 2013
#136
According to some on DU, any comment we make on this is Imperialist and NeoColonialst.
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#3
How would you give them this "freedom" and how would you know that you've given it to them? n/t
Turborama
Apr 2013
#48
You "cultural imperialist" you! Believing that western values about equality and women
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#74
Why is it we call it the "Middle East", when it's actually Southwest Asia? n/t
backscatter712
Apr 2013
#51
Well, I thought when Steven said "Minor Asia" he was trying to describe where Muslims live.
Turborama
Apr 2013
#59
1. That's a niqab, not a burqa. 2. The hideous IRONY of this ad! Women are FORCED to "cover up"
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#20
Okay, scratch the ad campaign because you don't approve. What's the next step?
Comrade Grumpy
May 2013
#197
So, they are saying beat women where it cannot be seen through the one small slot
Jamastiene
Apr 2013
#24
This is for the Saudis -- not for us. Why we're repelled by their treatment of women,
gateley
May 2013
#151