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Bonobo

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44. If only we could just rewrite the meanings of words as we want, eh?

Wed May 1, 2013, 04:11 AM

May 2013

Baseball is a game. Still with me?

A conspiracy is a crime for which their is collusion involving a number of parties to hide it. Such collusion usually involves force applied from a position of power.

Still with me? Stay focused.

THAT is what a conspiracy is. And it is called a "conspiracy theory" up until the point that it is uncovered and made public.

SOME theories wind up being wrong. In fact, that is why they are called theories.

Hang on, stay focused, we are ALMOST there!

You cannot disprove or discount a theory simply BECAUSE you label it a "conspiracy theory". If you were NOT intellectually lazy and language challenged, you might point out that it is a BAD theory, or a silly theory or a theory with no evidence.

BUT simply saying "conspiracy theory" is meaningless, especially since you have shown that you do not understand what "conspiracy" means and instead willfully apply your own senseless and vapid opinions about what constitutes one.

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Why DU has a "Creative Speculation" forum [View all] Scuba Apr 2013 OP

The original Birther was also a 911 Truther. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #1

Oh com'on we got a global elite (check) nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #2

It was TV. But, who's quibbling. Lots of pin the tail on the CT in recent days here. leveymg May 2013 #77

Yup. Conspiracy theorists are like a cult a very, very dangerous one as they are deniers. graham4anything Apr 2013 #3

Don't really care for the term "conspiracy theory". It is a pejorative label, meant to belittle. djean111 Apr 2013 #4

Why do people care? octothorpe Apr 2013 #11

Would you prefer "a responsible opposing viewpoint"? brooklynite May 2013 #69

The next question is, is this curable Progressive dog Apr 2013 #5

you want I should kick some creative speculating ass, Scuba? Skittles Apr 2013 #6

That's precisely what they want you to think!!! longship Apr 2013 #7

I keep reading this as izzard people - and thinking Cool! :-) djean111 Apr 2013 #9

Gaaaah JustAnotherGen May 2013 #62

I would add main stream media's growing foray into speculation as "news". pinto Apr 2013 #8

If conspiracies don't exist, why are there laws prohibiting them? OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #10

Very interesting...Thanks for the post...A link would be helpful, though. KoKo Apr 2013 #12

No link. OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #13

Oh...yes...I've listened to Parenti...so I can understand now what you are saying...and KoKo Apr 2013 #15

Exactly. And, such a fun follow-up. Festivito Apr 2013 #20

"they concede that governments themselves may be purveyors of conspiracy theories G_j May 2013 #36

Does anyone think the existence of elected "leaders" who believe it is: OK to LIE us into war, Vincardog Apr 2013 #14

and what about non-governmental conspiracies... choie May 2013 #58

Yes it was. Where was his son when JFK bit it? Wasn't it his grandson who lied us into Iraq? Vincardog May 2013 #67

Here's another trend. OnyxCollie May 2013 #70

Try wagging your finger a little less. How about, instead, Quantess Apr 2013 #16

silly H2O Man Apr 2013 #17

What about all the Conspiracy Theories That Turned Out to be True? There were many MellowYellow Apr 2013 #18

Fringe groups, like people that pretend conspiracies don't exist. Rex May 2013 #72

DU was born of a conspiracy theory. Skip Intro Apr 2013 #19

"Alternative Theories" to MSM reporting seem to now be considered "CT" KoKo May 2013 #65

An international cabal conspiring to manipulate the world economy... Bonobo Apr 2013 #21

Here are some links for the sensible woodchucks Electric Monk Apr 2013 #22

Sensible Wood Schmucks? nt Bonobo Apr 2013 #23

Yawn. In the end, conspiracy theories are intellectually lazy and boring. Like witchhunts in Salem. graham4anything May 2013 #24

You are saying that more than 20 million died in the Holocaust? nt Bonobo May 2013 #25

6 million Jews & tens of millions of non-Jews. Oh wait, the Holocaust never happened cters say graham4anything May 2013 #26

Your numbers are fucked up. Bonobo May 2013 #27

In your world view, CTers are an homogenous group? Talk about a conspiracy theory! Wow! nt Electric Monk May 2013 #31

BTW, the guy in Invasion of Body Snatchers was very ill and a conspiracy theorist graham4anything May 2013 #29

What the FuCK are you TALKING about? nt Bonobo May 2013 #30

If everything is connected as CTers say, then you are me graham4anything May 2013 #32

Congrats on totally missing the point about taking the official stories with a grain of salt Electric Monk May 2013 #33

already know what it is. Google the serenity thingy. especially the third sentence. graham4anything May 2013 #35

The wisdom to know the difference? Are you saying you do this on purpose? Get a better hobby. Electric Monk May 2013 #37

Conspiracy theories are only as good as the person telling them-like magic,logic soon prevails graham4anything May 2013 #41

Standard oil, first, and then the Business plot (including Prescott Bush) Electric Monk May 2013 #45

And? Nothing comes of it but 41 W and Jeb. graham4anything May 2013 #54

Wow, you are incredible, in every sense of the word. nt Electric Monk May 2013 #55

Well I do feel strangely connected to MOST fellow Jews. Bonobo May 2013 #34

But everyone is connected. So you and Joe are one. CTers and 6 degrees of connectivity graham4anything May 2013 #38

You need beer and travel money. We get it. nt. Electric Monk May 2013 #39

Oh wow. Look. Bonobo May 2013 #53

There was, by definition, a conspiracy surrounding Watergate break-ins. Bonobo May 2013 #40

By that definition, the two thrillkillfameseekers were a conspiracy too. graham4anything May 2013 #42

If only we could just rewrite the meanings of words as we want, eh? Bonobo May 2013 #44

I'm starting to think they really do know better, but they're just trolling for fun. It's a game. nt Electric Monk May 2013 #48

So you think the brain-dead, rambling mutterings are a put-on? nt Bonobo May 2013 #49

I suspect that it could be... :shrug: This is the internet, after all. Electric Monk May 2013 #51

It's an AI, Artificial Inanity n/t Fumesucker May 2013 #52

conspiracy theory is a waste of time. talking about them is talk. NOTHING will come of it. graham4anything May 2013 #56

If you want stuff you write to be read. Bonobo May 2013 #57

If 4 people were in on it then yes, it was a conspiracy. Why are you trying to pretend otherwise? Electric Monk May 2013 #47

So, the WTC is still standing? A magician was paid to do some sort of trick? graham4anything May 2013 #59

Heh. I keep seeing staments like your in response to his posts! progressoid May 2013 #82

the holocaust was a conspiracy. HiPointDem May 2013 #28

I don't necessarily think it's a conspiracy... krispos42 May 2013 #64

Here are my conspiracy theories regarding a certain political party in the United States. gordianot May 2013 #43

Yep. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #46

because it is used in a derogatory way, the term G_j May 2013 #50

Shocker! Person puts all conspiracy theories in the same basket Jake Izzy May 2013 #60

Please note that I am not the author of the article. Scuba May 2013 #61

Honestly, this place looks more Bobbie Jo May 2013 #63

Yup, very sad. n/t FSogol May 2013 #66

Or your average New Age repository in other areas. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #86

Tell me if you've heard this one before. OnyxCollie May 2013 #68

Makes Reagan's astrologer look rational by comparison. Scuba May 2013 #74

It reminds me of the Iraq War propaganda. OnyxCollie May 2013 #75

Love how all conspiracies are lumped into a single group for ridicule, MadHound May 2013 #71

Fringe groups. They want people to believe that conspiracies don't exist. Rex May 2013 #73

Oh, I think there is a group that is a happy medium, MadHound May 2013 #76

They are the fringe...they might as well believe there are only 100 stars in the sky. Rex May 2013 #78

So you're saying that the majority of Americans who don't accept the official story MadHound May 2013 #79

No I agree with you that the majority of Americans question the official story Rex May 2013 #80

Ah, got it now, sorry, a bit slow on the uptake this morning. MadHound May 2013 #81

Funny whatchamacallit May 2013 #85

Bogus? Maybe to you it is because you believe in MIHOP. Rex May 2013 #87

Not entirely sure what to believe whatchamacallit May 2013 #88

Not so much, we all know that government as war criminals. Rex May 2013 #89

Only a loon whatchamacallit May 2013 #84

Oldest trick in the book whatchamacallit May 2013 #83