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muriel_volestrangler

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35. Which is a bit of a cop-out - that economic inequality needs fixing
Wed May 1, 2013, 10:30 AM
May 2013

What we could do is take the proportion of a country achieving at least a certain level in the test. While there is significant poverty in the US (though it's not alone in that in the highest developed countries), we could see how many get to at least Level 3 - which, for the whole OECD, is 52.6%. Most children in the US aren't in poverty (even when defining poverty as relative to the USA; define it as relative to the OECD overall, and even fewer are), so a measure of how many achieve what over half of the whole OECD do shouldn't be that excused by poverty. Here it is (from the spreadsheet I gave the link to earlier):

Finland 82.3
Canada 70.9
Japan 69.5
Korea 67.6
Australia 66.9
New Zealand 66.6
Netherlands 65.9
Germany 63.3
Belgium 62.2
Switzerland 62.2
Austria 61.9
United Kingdom 61.5
Czech Republic 61.1
Ireland 60.5
Hungary 58.9
Sweden 58.5
France 56.0
Denmark 55.6
Poland 55.5
Iceland 53.6
Spain 53.0
OECD total 52.6
Luxembourg 52.5
Slovak Republic 51.8
Norway 51.7
United States 51.4
Italy 47.1
Greece 47.0
Portugal 46.7
Turkey 22.2
Mexico 18.3

So, what we see is that the US does OK (but not especially well) for the top level - but that's only 1.5%. As soon as you look below that, the US performance drops off.

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US students have a broader bell curve distribution than those of other countries. reformist2 May 2013 #1
Depends on the country AngryAmish May 2013 #21
kr HiPointDem May 2013 #2
This is based on standardized test scores, right? oberliner May 2013 #3
I agree Chico Man May 2013 #7
Thanks oberliner May 2013 #29
And the proportion of high-performing US students is lower than many advanced OECD countries muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #4
That's sobering A Little Weird May 2013 #13
The Us may not want to consider countires like Mexico iemitsu May 2013 #14
+1000 Starry Messenger May 2013 #31
Which is a bit of a cop-out - that economic inequality needs fixing muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #35
Yes it is Progressive dog May 2013 #17
Garbage in, garbage out Demeter May 2013 #5
Maybe you are describing yourself, Demeter whathehell May 2013 #8
What bullshit leftynyc May 2013 #9
Thank you. DU has become a haven for America haters, foreign & domestic. whathehell May 2013 #11
Quite the contrary Newest Reality May 2013 #12
... xchrom May 2013 #16
Perhaps where you live leftynyc May 2013 #23
I appreciate your Newest Reality May 2013 #25
I said nothing about the OP leftynyc May 2013 #28
Nope! Newest Reality May 2013 #33
Ah - word games leftynyc May 2013 #37
Thanks. Newest Reality May 2013 #39
Sorry, Newest, but I think not, whathehell May 2013 #41
Unlike your heroes Demeter May 2013 #20
Well, bully for you leftynyc May 2013 #24
That was three generations ago Demeter May 2013 #26
Really? Unspeakable? leftynyc May 2013 #30
Ivy Leagues are need-based Chico Man May 2013 #38
Tell it to the Boomers. Demeter May 2013 #40
I'd be interested in ranking ability to innovate Chico Man May 2013 #6
Definition of Flame bait: Anything Positive About Americans whathehell May 2013 #10
But can they think critically? Show that they are not just brain-smart ... ananda May 2013 #15
It's hard to judge NewJeffCT May 2013 #22
Of course they can, though I'm not sure what "brain smart" as opposed to "heart smart" has whathehell May 2013 #42
Thanks for validating what I've been saying for a while NewJeffCT May 2013 #18
we HATE talking about class in this country. xchrom May 2013 #19
Even good schools in wealthy districts can be under-supported NewJeffCT May 2013 #27
sigh. d_r May 2013 #32
It's called how to lie with statistics Demeter May 2013 #34
We're being out-performed because we're teaching students how to pass exams. Apophis May 2013 #36
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