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28. This latest firearm atrocity reminded me of my childhood -

Thu May 2, 2013, 10:32 PM

May 2013

i had joked in some comments elsewhere about maybe some day there'd be "Baby's First Colt .45". I didn't know such a thing as the Cricket existed. There is no way in Hell a child needs to have a real firearm.

I hadn't had a reason to remember this before for all these years - when I was a kid in the '50s we played with cap guns. Just a toy gun that made a noise and smelled of gunpowder after pulling the trigger. I googled "cap guns" and found this: http://www.nicholscapguns.com/about.htm

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This is five year old thinking. A five year old cannot comprehend gun safety. [View all] nolabear May 2013 OP

You're about to hear "but MY kid is different" maxsolomon May 2013 #1

kids are different though, i dont trust my daughter in traffic but with horses no problem loli phabay May 2013 #2

Kids are different some ways Tien1985 May 2013 #6

little bit fishy needs defining, i would also report if i heard a kid was carrying unsupervised loli phabay May 2013 #7

We are talking about 5 year olds ,would you trust any 5 year old hunting even supervised? newmember May 2013 #35

NO kidding. laundry_queen May 2013 #45

Hard to believe this is even an argument here. newmember May 2013 #64

I am a therapist and also mandated, and I would do the same. nolabear May 2013 #9

logical thinking does not develop before a certain age, around 7 IIRC magical thyme May 2013 #80

for me the problem is unsupervised access to firearms, same as unsupervised access to the river loli phabay May 2013 #81

exactly. nt magical thyme May 2013 #82

And just how do you enforce that supervision? EOTE May 2013 #84

there is already age limits on gun ownership, my daughter does not own her .22 i do loli phabay May 2013 #89

So your daughter doesn't own "HER" .22 . Are you listening to yourself? EOTE May 2013 #90

legally she does not but in all sense she does, good luck getting laws passed to stop parents loli phabay May 2013 #91

That's exactly what law should be passed. EOTE May 2013 #92

good luck with that. i think you will find more kids die from unsupervised drownings and falls loli phabay May 2013 #93

Just like those thousands of gun owners involved with homicide. EOTE May 2013 #94

as i said good luck, until then i will continue hunting and teaching. loli phabay May 2013 #95

Do your kids know how to swim? blueamy66 May 2013 #100

they can swim, her better than him though its mostly the river and ponds they swim in loli phabay May 2013 #101

Actually I don't think you will hear anything like you claim, espcially not here at DU ProgressiveProfessor May 2013 #4

Somethings up with the time stamps on these posts abelenkpe May 2013 #11

I know, right? maxsolomon May 2013 #97

LOL, hyperbole happens. nt laundry_queen May 2013 #49

I see posts like that just about every day here at DU. EOTE May 2013 #85

did you read post #2? maxsolomon May 2013 #96

But my kid IS different. EOTE May 2013 #83

You got half of it correct. ManiacJoe May 2013 #3

My concern would be the same as letting him put a fork in a socket as long as the power is off. nolabear May 2013 #8

Smart thing regarding forks and electricity. ManiacJoe May 2013 #14

Okay. I'll try again. nolabear May 2013 #23

At no point should your hypothetical children be exposed to an unsecured gun. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #41

Exactly right. ManiacJoe May 2013 #42

Speaking of proportions. A child can be easily tricked with coins by what they percieve as bigger. freshwest May 2013 #56

A five year old should not ever operate a firearm MattBaggins May 2013 #16

Feel free to explain the reasoning behind your blanket statement. ManiacJoe May 2013 #18

Same reasons they can not MattBaggins May 2013 #21

Obviously not. ManiacJoe May 2013 #46

There is no good fucking reason a 5 year old should ever fire a gun snooper2 May 2013 #88

Same reason they shouldn't operate a wood chipper newmember May 2013 #26

Why would any listen to a maniac. morningfog May 2013 #29

Thanks for the laugh! ManiacJoe May 2013 #50

Whole heartedly agree with you. Nt Tien1985 May 2013 #5

Which is why you wait until they are 9 or 10. nt hack89 May 2013 #10

Get them humping that gun as early as possible! morningfog May 2013 #30

Why do you have to be so offensive? hack89 May 2013 #66

Because I am sick of this shit. morningfog May 2013 #67

That is fine I guess - the NRA appreciates your support hack89 May 2013 #68

We tried working with your kind, it doesn't work. morningfog May 2013 #69

By all means.. pipoman May 2013 #71

Purity purges. Got to love them. hack89 May 2013 #73

"I have said consistently that I believe that the Second Amendment is an individual right." hack89 May 2013 #74

"that includes pre-schoolers" maxsolomon May 2013 #98

Did you leave out a word? nt hack89 May 2013 #99

I generally agree, but it is amazing what kids can do. aikoaiko May 2013 #12

Impressive. Well above average for his age. ManiacJoe May 2013 #15

That's an accident waiting to happen newmember May 2013 #22

I agree... Bay Boy May 2013 #33

I don't get an image on your post. Can't tell what you're referring to. nolabear May 2013 #25

Its a video of a 5 year old in a practical shooting competition aikoaiko May 2013 #27

I see this one. My point remains though. I wouldn't trust him to think like an adult. nolabear May 2013 #36

I wouldn't either. aikoaiko May 2013 #44

Watch how he cleared that pistol the last 5 seconds of the video newmember May 2013 #38

Yep he dropped the mag and cleared the chamber aikoaiko May 2013 #48

watch again newmember May 2013 #51

What am I missing? aikoaiko May 2013 #53

Look at where he grabbed the front of the slide with a chambered round newmember May 2013 #55

Yes he is close to the muzzle but he's not covering it aikoaiko May 2013 #57

I know what he's doing and you don't clear a pistol with half of your hand over the muzzle. newmember May 2013 #58

I don't think it is over the muzzle. aikoaiko May 2013 #59

exactly 1:18 newmember May 2013 #62

Under something called ADULT SUPERVISION, but That doen't work either....Watch W T F May 2013 #39

I'm aware of that sad case. aikoaiko May 2013 #52

The worst part of it all was the father thought it was fun and newmember May 2013 #63

Yep. laundry_queen May 2013 #54

this is bad adult supervision same as the adult who leaves kids in aa car on a hot day loli phabay May 2013 #72

One more thing I would like to add is, the context of your argument is that some 5 year olds can... W T F May 2013 #43

I dispute it, no 5 year old can newmember May 2013 #47

They just need one fucking idiot adult enabler! morningfog May 2013 #31

A 5 year old could be confused as to WHY someone wants the right to bear arms... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #13

the issue is legal maindawg May 2013 #17

Gun manufactures will sell their guns mercymechap May 2013 #20

You've lost all credibility... Bay Boy May 2013 #34

technically my daughter does not own her rifle i do, she just has use of it on our range loli phabay May 2013 #75

Yes there are legal limits. aikoaiko May 2013 #76

Thank you for such an excellent illustration mercymechap May 2013 #19

Flabbergasting that this even has to be said Uzair May 2013 #24

This latest firearm atrocity reminded me of my childhood - LiberalElite May 2013 #28

big difference is that you used cap guns firing them off willy nilly, my daughter fires one round at loli phabay May 2013 #70

I liked stepping on the paper caps HockeyMom May 2013 #77

and yet the boys learned to shoot each other with no consequence, whereas my daughter learns loli phabay May 2013 #79

Piaget knows, elleng May 2013 #32

If he thinks the same way when he grows up, He'll make a fine Republican :-) W T F May 2013 #37

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And now for something completely different rocktivity May 2013 #60

In a similar vein, here's someone who isn't old enough to comprehend rocktivity May 2013 #61

that's one of the cutest babies i have seen JI7 May 2013 #65

Oh man, who could want more than to have someone that happy to see you? nolabear May 2013 #87

Radical gun extremists--that's all this exposes earthside May 2013 #78

Especially if they watch their parents or older children constantly handling a weapon. Tikki May 2013 #86