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In reply to the discussion: We can do better than Hillary Clinton. [View all]whathehell
(30,578 posts)and I honestly would prefer not to have someone who doesn't remember how America was at it's PEAK,
a time when we had the LARGEST middle class in the world, about 40% union membership, and the largest
number of college graduates. Hell, my dad was a union organizer and blue collar worker and he could easily
afford to allow my mom to stay at home with their two kids -- and without financial suffering. We were
hardly "rich" or even "upper middle class", but we were middle class, happy and generally satisfied.
I sometimes wonder if this is not at least part of Obama's problem. He was born in 1961 and, even
given his untraditional upbringing, you MAY remember his saying how he regarded Reagan
as a "Transformational President".....That sent up red flags for me, because what he did NOT say was
that Reagan "transformed" everything alright, but for the WORSE. Given his age, he was probably not politically aware
until Reagan's time.
His mother was an interesting, free spirited with a strong social conscience. My guess is that he rejected her model and went with
that of his Bank Vice President grandmother, "toot". I don't, of course, know what her politics were, but
something tells me she was a great believer in MONEY...She apparently paid about $30,000 a year in today's bucks
to put him through a pricey private school starting in Sixth Grade. Someone here, I forget who, said that
Timothy Geithner was actually the son or grandson of Toot's boss...I don't know if that's true, but it's
an interesting question.
I too voted for Obama hoping he'd be more liberal than Hillary...What a disappointment THAT's been,
since I really believe they're "birds of a feather", if you will. I honestly do NOT think he's a democrat in anything
but name. I think he was able to "pass" as one, for a couple of reasons, but one important one would be
that people have been paying SO much attention to the SOCIAL issues, rather than the economic ones,
that at this point, just about ANYONE, assuming they're pro-choice and pro-gay rights, can call themselves a "Democrat"
and THAT, I believe, is both a great mistake and a great danger... You may have noticed that, like the Repukes, only in reverse,
most beltway dems now almost exclusively concerned with "social issues".. And why not?...Like the Repubs, they may have noticed that
the social issues do not Cost anything! It allows them to feed at the Wall Street trough, while proclaiming their "liberalness".
Getting away from our economic roots seemed to start with Clinton, although I think even he was better than Obama.
The party has been going downhill ever since, IMO...If we don't get someone at least SOMEWHAT progressive,
I think we're doomed.