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Honeycombe8

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30. Not if you're in a minority neighborhood. Who are you gonna stop...

Fri May 3, 2013, 09:04 PM

May 2013

Who are you gonna stop in a black neighborhood but black people? Who are you gonna stop in a Puerto Rican neighborhood except Puerto Ricans?

Not enough information in the OP to show racism.

Example: If they are stopping and frisking in a white neighborhood, and 80% of who they stop and frisk there are black, and most of hte crimes in that neighborhood are committed by folks who live in the neighborhood...THAT would tend to show racism. But just percentages of who they stop, by race, doesn't say much. You have to know more.

And the chart also doesn't differentiate between stopping & frisking generally, and doing that for reasonable cause.

It could be racism. The stats alone don't prove that, though.

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Charts: Are the NYPD's Stop-and-Frisks Violating the Constitution? [View all] MrScorpio May 2013 OP

As I said on a previous thread: Law enforcement is out of control Th1onein May 2013 #1

Fuck yes, they're violating the constitution. X_Digger May 2013 #2

The ongoing schoolcraft saga... beevul May 2013 #3

The other sad piece of that is mis-filing crimes downward to make compstat numbers look good. X_Digger May 2013 #4

Yeah, that is pretty sad. beevul May 2013 #5

These stats PROVE that the NYC Police are totally shitty at their probable cause judgement. I am.... Logical May 2013 #10

Just stating the race doesn't mean much, though. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #6

So, simply living in a "high crime" area is enough reason for one to be stopped and frisked? MrScorpio May 2013 #7

The NYC does not care about the Bill of Rights any longer. n-t Logical May 2013 #11

That much is apparently true MrScorpio May 2013 #13

I wish someone could product a hidden camera documentary on this farce. n-t Logical May 2013 #16

Here's a hidden audio.. X_Digger May 2013 #27

Horrible. Too many people trust the police 100%. Jury's included. n-t Logical May 2013 #29

I'm addressing the "racist" part of the claim. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #17

I'm just trying to clarify what you're saying here. MrScorpio May 2013 #24

"minorities want police to clamp down on crime in their areas" Logical May 2013 #8

I'm speaking about the "racist" part of the claim. Not the constitutionality of stopping Honeycombe8 May 2013 #18

Targeting certain racial minorities more than others . . . markpkessinger May 2013 #20

Not if you're in a minority neighborhood. Who are you gonna stop... Honeycombe8 May 2013 #30

They shouldn't be stopping ANYBODY absent reasonable suspicion . . . markpkessinger May 2013 #31

I was not commenting on the stop and frisk law. I don't know enuf Honeycombe8 May 2013 #32

Absolute fucking wow MattBaggins May 2013 #14

Facts are pesky things, aren't they? They just make you go "wow." Honeycombe8 May 2013 #19

Here's a link to the NYCLU's report on stop and frisk ... markpkessinger May 2013 #21

I know of at least one DU member premium May 2013 #9

Well, they're probably one of those people who have me on ignore MrScorpio May 2013 #12

I'm thinking you know whom I speak of. premium May 2013 #15

Check out the New York Civil Liberties Union's 2011 report on stop-and-frisk markpkessinger May 2013 #22

This is off-topic, but CheapShotArtist May 2013 #23

Yes. They need to stop. nt hack89 May 2013 #25

And yet there are supporters of Bloomberg here on DU. nt hack89 May 2013 #26

More than once Civil Liberties has been a topic on these boards Savannahmann May 2013 #28