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50. A good percentage of the Republican gun owners were once Democrats. ...
Sat May 4, 2013, 12:34 PM
May 2013

Over the last several decades the Democratic Party has become known as the "gun control party."

At the indoor pistol range I used to shoot at we had a long table in the lobby and on Saturday and Sunday mornings many regular shooters would sit and talk about news, politics, sports and computers. It was always a good humored discussion but the few Democrats did get a lot of razzing.

What surprised me was that many of the Republican gun owners actually agreed with the Democratic Party on a good number of issues but said that they would never vote for any Democrat as they feared it might lead to strong gun control such as another AWB or national gun registration.

The morning gathering was not a bunch of "bubbas" as many who post here will automatically assume but was instead was composed of largely well educated professionals including doctors, lawyers, engineers and technicians. Some of the shooters owned their own businesses. A couple were very wealthy and most upper middle class. Many were ex military or had retired from a career in law enforcement. Some were hunters but far from the majority. The group was largely White but there were some Hispanic and Blacks. A fair percentage had concealed carry licenses and carried on a regular basis.

Militia members were not welcomed and I never heard any talk of a need for a revolution. None of the members seemed overly religious in the least and I suspect that most were either atheists or agnostics although religion was never discussed.

This range was somewhat unusual because of the long discussion table. At most of the gun ranges that I have shot at the shooters come in, shoot and leave. At such ranges I never really knew much about the shooters on the line as there was little opportunity for an interchange.

What I fear is that the recent push for the assault weapons ban may drive even more gun owners to vote Republican. There are an estimated 80,000,000 gun owners in our nation and when you add the voting age members of their families who enjoy shooting, you end up with a LARGE voting block. In states with a high level of gun ownership this may it difficult for a Democrat to hold office or gain it.

In my opinion the push for the new AWB was an overreach and was doomed from the start. Had some politicians and the gun control movement merely proposed universal background checks and some other commonsense improvements to current laws coupled with better enforcement and stronger punishment for those caught engaging in the straw purchase and smuggling of firearms, these measures would have had faced little resistance in Congress and would be law by now. Instead the effort encouraged the sky rocketing sale of firearms of all types and led to gun owners stocking up on ammo in large quantities. The solution to gun violence in our nation is not to increase the number of gun owners and the number of guns in our nation and it is definitely not to cause even more gun owners to vote for Republicans.

Of course I could always be wrong. Perhaps it will be the Republican Party that loses at the local, state and national levels in the midterm election over the gun control issue.

Time will tell.

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... Electric Monk May 2013 #1
OMG!!! i can't stop laughing!!!!! orleans May 2013 #22
Thread Over. Ikonoklast May 2013 #24
LOL. Absolutely perfect response! tridim May 2013 #26
Well, there are the facts. How do you feel about it all now? uppityperson May 2013 #2
I think "facts" mzteris May 2013 #3
I would probably do it again if asked newmember May 2013 #8
Hope you enjoyed yourself Duckhunter935 May 2013 #4
lol newmember May 2013 #7
I like your straw man! Good job!! :) ZRT2209 May 2013 #9
Congrats! You've just taken your first step into a larger world. Skeeter Barnes May 2013 #5
I never really thought about it newmember May 2013 #6
I wish that many of the Jenoch May 2013 #10
I spent 4 years in the army reserves and fired all kinds of guns that I don't think belong Electric Monk May 2013 #11
Why join the army when you are already part of the militia? LAGC May 2013 #12
I'm not in the mood to re-hash your mis-reading of the 2nd yet again tonight. Electric Monk May 2013 #13
Toons are fun. LAGC May 2013 #15
Thanks for not posting the "AK-47 AK-47 AK-47 AK-47 AK-47" one Electric Monk May 2013 #16
Yet... LAGC May 2013 #18
Keep thumbing your nose at dead kids. It's late, I'm tired, goodnight. I'll look back in tomorrow. Electric Monk May 2013 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author olddots May 2013 #20
More poison from the pen of Ramirez TheCowsCameHome May 2013 #23
It's nothing to do with the 2nd, it's codified Federal law. sir pball May 2013 #17
OK, all the gun cultists over 45 need to turn in their weapons. Hoyt May 2013 #28
Looks like wimmen folk can't have them gunz either. Or non-"able bodied" 17-45 males. uppityperson May 2013 #49
That's a good start. That'll get rid of bunch of weapons old guys covet, and shut down gun stores. Hoyt May 2013 #55
I have a few questions. Jenoch May 2013 #21
For sure, most of them are Repubs Skeeter Barnes May 2013 #14
A good percentage of the Republican gun owners were once Democrats. ... spin May 2013 #50
The old, Dems will vote for a republican over guns ruse. I doubt true ones will consider that. Hoyt May 2013 #59
How do you define a true Democrat. ... spin May 2013 #66
" all these guys vote Democrat"... is that madmom May 2013 #45
A gun nut named Skeeter name not needed May 2013 #79
What I learned from shooting at a range -- handguns are really, really inaccurate! mainer May 2013 #25
Plus, anyone shooting someone at more than 10 yards probably ain't defending themselves. Hoyt May 2013 #29
depends if they are shooting at you and the danger distance for a knife is twenty feet or so loli phabay May 2013 #30
20 feet is not 10 yards, and you keep playing that paranoia in your head. Hoyt May 2013 #33
never said twenty feet was ten yards, just saying that twenty feet is the dangerzone with a blade loli phabay May 2013 #74
I suspect there are lots of better things to occupy your training time. Hoyt May 2013 #78
Makes more sense to run from a knife mainer May 2013 #37
unless your ben johnson then running might not be an option, though you do train to move sideways loli phabay May 2013 #75
A good staff or stick will work. You don't need a gun. Get real. Hoyt May 2013 #77
I didn't fire any handguns newmember May 2013 #40
There's always next time. Skeeter Barnes May 2013 #65
Isn't that special? 99Forever May 2013 #27
i love accuracy international especially matched with lapua rounds, its a real special combination. loli phabay May 2013 #31
I shot one newmember May 2013 #39
yeah the rounds are way out there, luckily i was not paying for them but i am thinking of investing loli phabay May 2013 #73
I went last Saturday krispos42 May 2013 #32
Maybe graham beat you to Wal-Mart pintobean May 2013 #34
That was one funny/weird thread. CokeMachine May 2013 #67
I didn't hear anyone mention anything political there. newmember May 2013 #36
How come capitalism doesn't work with ammo manufacturers? bluedigger May 2013 #43
Were you looking to acquire a pointless and expensive new hobby? surrealAmerican May 2013 #35
What's the point of golf? CokeMachine May 2013 #70
It's equally pointless. surrealAmerican May 2013 #71
I agree totally. Have a good weekend!! CokeMachine May 2013 #72
Why would anyone be attracted to crud like "Desert Tactical Arms?" Find something worthwhile to do, Hoyt May 2013 #38
I didn't see anyone giddy there , most seemed lost in concentration newmember May 2013 #41
Concentrate on something meaningful -- the Zen of guns is BS. Hoyt May 2013 #42
How newmember, or anyone for that matter, premium May 2013 #44
I bet you'd prefer not to see them, or photos of little kids shot with your sporting "tools." Hoyt May 2013 #46
What? premium May 2013 #47
I'm totally stealing that. nt rrneck May 2013 #56
Be my guest, premium May 2013 #58
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Thank you. premium May 2013 #61
None of our business? RetroLounge May 2013 #68
It was a holiday, they had a big parade? Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #48
I go to the University of Montana, ZombieHorde May 2013 #51
If they are carrying guns, or have a bunch of assault weapona, you have a low bar for intelligence. Hoyt May 2013 #57
Seems like you are making a connection between the rhetorical, abstract construct of ownership ZombieHorde May 2013 #62
Nah, I'm just saying a high percentage of those overly excited by guns are lightly educated, or Hoyt May 2013 #63
I see nothing wrong with going to a gun range RebelOne May 2013 #52
love your Obama avatar.... cool bro IcyPeas May 2013 #53
have a good time? gejohnston May 2013 #54
On ear protection: A guy I know is totally dependent on a hearing aid;he told me that he shot target AlinPA May 2013 #64
Hmmm RetroLounge May 2013 #69
Welcome back to DU, and billh58 May 2013 #76
Locking Turborama May 2013 #80
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