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silly naive quote. graham4anything May 2013 #1
ROFL NutmegYankee May 2013 #2
People who didn't like Ronald Reagan should have voted for Jimmy Carter in 1980. graham4anything May 2013 #3
non sequitur NutmegYankee May 2013 #5
Well... but we're talking about the Dow and trickle down. Squinch May 2013 #11
I like pop tarts. nt Javaman May 2013 #91
What's funny about that, many of the middle class have those treestar May 2013 #39
Pensions are a rare thing for the baby boomers. Mostly only public employees have them in my JDPriestly May 2013 #96
I was laughing because so few have them. NutmegYankee May 2013 #113
Seriously, pensions? Now that is funny! mountain grammy May 2013 #42
Don't Laugh, Not Everyone Is Left Without One mimi85 May 2013 #108
everybody doesn't have a pension fund, graham. in fact, most people don't. HiPointDem May 2013 #4
one forgets a major economic point graham4anything May 2013 #6
go, word-salad man! HiPointDem May 2013 #7
Who are we actually talking about here? Could it be a baby boomer and/or a parent of one? graham4anything May 2013 #9
I don't know where you get your information, but you're flat out wrong on SS. Fuddnik May 2013 #17
I've read many times that SS was intended as a SUPPLEMENT for seniors... Honeycombe8 May 2013 #47
That's what I mean. During the depression seniors DIDN'T nave anything to supplement. Fuddnik May 2013 #54
I agree. But for the middle class, it doesn't replace SAVING for retirement. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #60
You should save. You have to understand that right now, seniors who are saving in JDPriestly May 2013 #99
Nice post, bookmarked bahrbearian May 2013 #63
You have been misinformed. JDPriestly May 2013 #98
Airplane glue! CrispyQ May 2013 #81
"Penguin dust, bring me penguin dust, I want penguin dust--" HiPointDem May 2013 #83
Value in our homes was "unstable"? AllyCat May 2013 #18
I bought my NJ home for about $160. It skyrocketed to $650 in value, but now about $400 graham4anything May 2013 #22
You are advocating I walk away from my house? Fold and walk away? AllyCat May 2013 #35
take Walmart and the Sam Walton Family (please) graham4anything May 2013 #43
Well. That settles it then. Everyone was greedy, and so now they must pay. Squinch May 2013 #45
Have you ever read a basic investment book? Honeycombe8 May 2013 #48
The first line of your response sounds snarky. Forgive if that's not true... AllyCat May 2013 #55
Oh, no, I didn't mean it that way. But reading it now, it looks like it. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #57
"safe as houses" annabanana May 2013 #87
Whatever the initial intent, the fact is that many people would have nothing w/o SS. AnnieK401 May 2013 #21
That may be true, but is irrelvant, and to add graham4anything May 2013 #27
You obviously totally misunderstood my post. This makes little sense. AnnieK401 May 2013 #29
Annie, I'm starting to see a pattern. AllyCat May 2013 #36
Let's also not forget that millions wouldn't have enuf to live on w/o 401ks and pensions. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #49
I don't think anyone's saying that the stock market going up is a bad thing AnnieK401 May 2013 #65
No one knows why the stock market goes up and down. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #94
"greedily hope" Hissyspit May 2013 #25
You sound like Mitt Romney not only in content but in form and style Bluenorthwest May 2013 #26
Here's a baby boomer The Wizard May 2013 #31
Seriously . . . he is "Evil RandomThoughts" HughBeaumont May 2013 #73
You are capable of being coherent, you slip up every once in a while and make sense Fumesucker May 2013 #8
Snarf... trumad May 2013 #10
It's an AI, Artificial Inanity n/t Fumesucker May 2013 #12
This still doesn't relate to the OP. We're talking about the Dow and the con of "trickle" Squinch May 2013 #13
Gee. It's a good thing I wasn't taxed on those "freebies". Fuddnik May 2013 #15
NO, you did not take less pay unless you only took the job for the healthcare. graham4anything May 2013 #24
No, I was on the Union bargaining team. Fuddnik May 2013 #58
Who is talking retirement money? I am talking 20-70 year olds working for today's doctor bills graham4anything May 2013 #61
You are entirely wrong again. Fuddnik May 2013 #104
I am talking about health insurance NOW.You are talking 50 years from now. graham4anything May 2013 #109
"I'm Mitt Romney, and I approve this message"....... lastlib May 2013 #16
Jesus fucking Christ. Defending trickle-down. Hissyspit May 2013 #23
How did you make it to 8,000 posts here? DJ13 May 2013 #78
graham4anything, no one gets health care for free. JDPriestly May 2013 #97
This chart shows that... reACTIONary May 2013 #19
But those other people aren't better off if the middle class people with pension funds treestar May 2013 #40
Your chart doesn't say how many workers had, or had access to, 401ks and pensions. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #46
"Everyone's pension funds" = silly naive quote Cal Carpenter May 2013 #14
"The market" has exactly zero affect on a pension, other than the "health" of the fund. Thor_MN May 2013 #20
your last line, exact opposite imho graham4anything May 2013 #28
You need to learn the difference between opinions Cal Carpenter May 2013 #30
disuptive only to an echo chamber. Conversation is never disruptive if one wants to converse. graham4anything May 2013 #33
Seriously? You think everyone has pensions? Thor_MN May 2013 #34
people do still have pensions - thanks to our union we still have a pension leftyohiolib May 2013 #44
SOME people have pensions. The majority do not. Thor_MN May 2013 #50
and i was replying to your statement leftyohiolib May 2013 #85
Sorry for not qualifying. MOST corporations have ditched pensions Thor_MN May 2013 #86
+1 for Unions Go Vols May 2013 #52
If you think the market has no effect on a pension you are grossly deceived. dkf May 2013 #69
I said that the market affects the health of the plan. Thor_MN May 2013 #71
Since most pensions are underfunded this is a not insignificant consideration. dkf May 2013 #72
Not insignificant, just not that relevant to the discussion I was in. Thor_MN May 2013 #74
When pensions are better funded they can improve their options. dkf May 2013 #75
Again valid, but still not relevant to my posts Thor_MN May 2013 #76
Those who are left will be in excellent shape and with their nice pensions will be happy as clams. dkf May 2013 #77
True, but irrelevant Thor_MN May 2013 #80
Actually there are a group of pensioners who could benefit. dkf May 2013 #79
More likely to benefit the firm letting the policy. Thor_MN May 2013 #82
That's what I've been trying to tell that bozo disruptor about pensions. Fuddnik May 2013 #106
Pension fund? Surely you jest. pangaia May 2013 #32
My pension was replaced by a 401k years ago toddaa May 2013 #38
Actually, probably not. You mean 401ks, I think. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #41
You're even defending Trickle Down economics now? Marr May 2013 #62
Congrats on a successful hijack. nm rhett o rick May 2013 #67
Pension? SalviaBlue May 2013 #70
WHO has a pension anymore? abelenkpe May 2013 #92
Asset allocation GeoWilliam750 May 2013 #93
For a short time. Until the Wall Street gamers decide to take their profits and clean the accounts JDPriestly May 2013 #95
Everyone's pension funds? pnwmom May 2013 #101
in what dream world do you live? Skittles May 2013 #105
derp der-derpity-derp Nanjing to Seoul May 2013 #111
I have a defined benefit plan quaker bill May 2013 #112
I don't agree treestar May 2013 #37
True. Some people who got laid off also lost their 401ks during the recession. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #51
And they would have that money to spend treestar May 2013 #56
Apparently you don't understand trickle-down. jeff47 May 2013 #64
The Dow isnt related to the economy of the 99%. rhett o rick May 2013 #68
I think this quote is dead right and doesn't suggest anything more than it says. mountain grammy May 2013 #53
She should write back that is because you only deserve Bullshit. southernyankeebelle May 2013 #59
Most people's 401Ks would only last a year (maybe two) without Social Security. reformist2 May 2013 #66
Better look at your life insurance and annuities ....... Historic NY May 2013 #84
very cute heaven05 May 2013 #88
Trickle down economics is, was, and has always been complete bullshit. Initech May 2013 #89
So what's the name of this bubble? They seem only to get named after they burst. rhett o rick May 2013 #90
The Crash of 2015 is due in October -by Thom Hartmann ErikJ May 2013 #100
Trickle Up, No More Trickle Down NBachers May 2013 #102
graham4anything is the biggest troll on the internet. ForgoTheConsequence May 2013 #103
Kick and Rec! Fuddnik May 2013 #107
I certainly don't mind that some people are doing well bhikkhu May 2013 #110
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