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66. How do you define a true Democrat. ...
Sat May 4, 2013, 04:10 PM
May 2013

I suspect many posters here would state that a true Democrat would support a ban on assault weapons. While that may be true in some states it isn't in others. Many gun owners who live in states like Florida or Texas have a collection of firearms worth thousands or tens of thousands of dollars. When they start to believe that their hobby and their investment is threatened it is only logical that they may decide to become single issue voters and vote against any and all Democrats.

Some elected Democrats stated that the AWB was "a good first step." Gun owners immediately interpreted that as suggesting that next step would be a ban on all semi auto firearms including handguns. They suspected that the end goal was to implement gun laws such as exist in some European nations. Consequently they ran out to their gun store and bought everything in sight and cleared the shelves of ammunition on the way out. You can bet that these fearful gun owners will be sure to turn up at the polls to vote against any Democrats regardless of their views on gun control. Close elections may be lost at the local, state and national levels.

I differ from many gun owners as I seriously believe that Republicans pose a more serious threat to gun ownership than do Democrats. For example I feel that if Mitt Romney would have been elected as President, Congress would have passed the assault weapons ban. Romney pandered to gun owners but his history showed that he was far from a strong gun rights advocate. The Sandy Hook shooting would have caused him to suggest reinstating the assault weapons ban and since he would have been a first term President, he would have been able to garner enough Republican support to get an AWB passed. John McCain was also no real friend of gun owners.

I also didn't panic and run out and buy a bunch of firearms like many gun owners. The ammo shortage has pissed me off because now I find it difficult to buy any ammo to practice with.

I feel that if some in the Democratic Party had not overreached by pushing for the AWB we would have been able to pass reasonable laws such as the universal background check by now.



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... Electric Monk May 2013 #1
OMG!!! i can't stop laughing!!!!! orleans May 2013 #22
Thread Over. Ikonoklast May 2013 #24
LOL. Absolutely perfect response! tridim May 2013 #26
Well, there are the facts. How do you feel about it all now? uppityperson May 2013 #2
I think "facts" mzteris May 2013 #3
I would probably do it again if asked newmember May 2013 #8
Hope you enjoyed yourself Duckhunter935 May 2013 #4
lol newmember May 2013 #7
I like your straw man! Good job!! :) ZRT2209 May 2013 #9
Congrats! You've just taken your first step into a larger world. Skeeter Barnes May 2013 #5
I never really thought about it newmember May 2013 #6
I wish that many of the Jenoch May 2013 #10
I spent 4 years in the army reserves and fired all kinds of guns that I don't think belong Electric Monk May 2013 #11
Why join the army when you are already part of the militia? LAGC May 2013 #12
I'm not in the mood to re-hash your mis-reading of the 2nd yet again tonight. Electric Monk May 2013 #13
Toons are fun. LAGC May 2013 #15
Thanks for not posting the "AK-47 AK-47 AK-47 AK-47 AK-47" one Electric Monk May 2013 #16
Yet... LAGC May 2013 #18
Keep thumbing your nose at dead kids. It's late, I'm tired, goodnight. I'll look back in tomorrow. Electric Monk May 2013 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author olddots May 2013 #20
More poison from the pen of Ramirez TheCowsCameHome May 2013 #23
It's nothing to do with the 2nd, it's codified Federal law. sir pball May 2013 #17
OK, all the gun cultists over 45 need to turn in their weapons. Hoyt May 2013 #28
Looks like wimmen folk can't have them gunz either. Or non-"able bodied" 17-45 males. uppityperson May 2013 #49
That's a good start. That'll get rid of bunch of weapons old guys covet, and shut down gun stores. Hoyt May 2013 #55
I have a few questions. Jenoch May 2013 #21
For sure, most of them are Repubs Skeeter Barnes May 2013 #14
A good percentage of the Republican gun owners were once Democrats. ... spin May 2013 #50
The old, Dems will vote for a republican over guns ruse. I doubt true ones will consider that. Hoyt May 2013 #59
How do you define a true Democrat. ... spin May 2013 #66
" all these guys vote Democrat"... is that madmom May 2013 #45
A gun nut named Skeeter name not needed May 2013 #79
What I learned from shooting at a range -- handguns are really, really inaccurate! mainer May 2013 #25
Plus, anyone shooting someone at more than 10 yards probably ain't defending themselves. Hoyt May 2013 #29
depends if they are shooting at you and the danger distance for a knife is twenty feet or so loli phabay May 2013 #30
20 feet is not 10 yards, and you keep playing that paranoia in your head. Hoyt May 2013 #33
never said twenty feet was ten yards, just saying that twenty feet is the dangerzone with a blade loli phabay May 2013 #74
I suspect there are lots of better things to occupy your training time. Hoyt May 2013 #78
Makes more sense to run from a knife mainer May 2013 #37
unless your ben johnson then running might not be an option, though you do train to move sideways loli phabay May 2013 #75
A good staff or stick will work. You don't need a gun. Get real. Hoyt May 2013 #77
I didn't fire any handguns newmember May 2013 #40
There's always next time. Skeeter Barnes May 2013 #65
Isn't that special? 99Forever May 2013 #27
i love accuracy international especially matched with lapua rounds, its a real special combination. loli phabay May 2013 #31
I shot one newmember May 2013 #39
yeah the rounds are way out there, luckily i was not paying for them but i am thinking of investing loli phabay May 2013 #73
I went last Saturday krispos42 May 2013 #32
Maybe graham beat you to Wal-Mart pintobean May 2013 #34
That was one funny/weird thread. CokeMachine May 2013 #67
I didn't hear anyone mention anything political there. newmember May 2013 #36
How come capitalism doesn't work with ammo manufacturers? bluedigger May 2013 #43
Were you looking to acquire a pointless and expensive new hobby? surrealAmerican May 2013 #35
What's the point of golf? CokeMachine May 2013 #70
It's equally pointless. surrealAmerican May 2013 #71
I agree totally. Have a good weekend!! CokeMachine May 2013 #72
Why would anyone be attracted to crud like "Desert Tactical Arms?" Find something worthwhile to do, Hoyt May 2013 #38
I didn't see anyone giddy there , most seemed lost in concentration newmember May 2013 #41
Concentrate on something meaningful -- the Zen of guns is BS. Hoyt May 2013 #42
How newmember, or anyone for that matter, premium May 2013 #44
I bet you'd prefer not to see them, or photos of little kids shot with your sporting "tools." Hoyt May 2013 #46
What? premium May 2013 #47
I'm totally stealing that. nt rrneck May 2013 #56
Be my guest, premium May 2013 #58
I just had to tell you that this is the best Facepalm poster ever Yo_Mama May 2013 #60
Thank you. premium May 2013 #61
None of our business? RetroLounge May 2013 #68
It was a holiday, they had a big parade? Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #48
I go to the University of Montana, ZombieHorde May 2013 #51
If they are carrying guns, or have a bunch of assault weapona, you have a low bar for intelligence. Hoyt May 2013 #57
Seems like you are making a connection between the rhetorical, abstract construct of ownership ZombieHorde May 2013 #62
Nah, I'm just saying a high percentage of those overly excited by guns are lightly educated, or Hoyt May 2013 #63
I see nothing wrong with going to a gun range RebelOne May 2013 #52
love your Obama avatar.... cool bro IcyPeas May 2013 #53
have a good time? gejohnston May 2013 #54
On ear protection: A guy I know is totally dependent on a hearing aid;he told me that he shot target AlinPA May 2013 #64
Hmmm RetroLounge May 2013 #69
Welcome back to DU, and billh58 May 2013 #76
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