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Drale

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17. Your kidding right?

Sat May 4, 2013, 04:22 PM

May 2013

Its against Islamic Law to kill Innocent people, yet he did this.

...So We decreed for the tribe of Israel that if someone kills another person - unless it is in retaliation for someone else or for causing corruption in the earth - it is as if he had murdered all mankind. And if anyone gives life to another person, it is as if he had given life to all mankind. Our Messengers came to them with Clear Signs but even after that many of them committed outrages in the earth. (Qur'an 5: 32)

Say: 'Come and I will recite to you what your Lord has made forbidden for you': that you do not associate anything with Him; that you are good to your parents; that you do not kill your children because of poverty - We will provide for you and them; that you do not approach indecency - outward or inward; that you do not kill any person God has made inviolate - except with the right to do so. That is what He instructs you to do so that hopefully you will use your intellect. (Qur'an 6: 151)

'Those who act cruelly and unjustly in the sacred lands, those who yearn for the ways of the ignorant and those who wrongly shed human blood.' (Reported in Bukhari)

I really don't think he's protected under Islamic law or any law for that matter anymore.

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No One Wants To Bury Tamerlan Tsarnaev. [View all] JaneyVee May 2013 OP

Take him to Hart Island, NY. reformist2 May 2013 #1

Sounds like a good idea, but can frogmarch May 2013 #51

Yeah, I don't know. I just learned about the place a few weeks ago, still creeps me out! reformist2 May 2013 #56

It creeps me out too! frogmarch May 2013 #57

I think places all over have "potter's fields" as parts of cemetaries. Jamastiene May 2013 #73

I can't say I'm surprised BainsBane May 2013 #2

So did Timothy McVeigh atreides1 May 2013 #77

I am not surprised! hrmjustin May 2013 #3

They've checked neighboring states, too--no joy. MADem May 2013 #4

Or send him to Chechnya where they're putting up pro-Tsarnaev Cha May 2013 #26

Well, his family is in Dagestan, not Chechnya. MADem May 2013 #33

Yeah, I know.. They're scamming. The poster guys probably Cha May 2013 #40

they lived in dagestan before they came to the us, so i don't know why you think they're scamming. HiPointDem May 2013 #69

Follow the conversation. Cha is talking about the poster - putter- uppers in Chechnya. MADem May 2013 #92

Tamerlan Tsarnaev is gone. He doesn't exist anymore. annabanana May 2013 #5

Just cremate him and send him to his mother, if you can find her. Drale May 2013 #6

His family won't allow it in all likelyhood. hrmjustin May 2013 #7

I agree 100% pintobean May 2013 #9

Against Islamic Law nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #11

Your kidding right? Drale May 2013 #17

Yes, I am nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #20

+1 nt Live and Learn May 2013 #34

It depends entirely on the Imam's interpretation. MADem May 2013 #49

I agree, Nadin. But don't expect many to understand. We have sunk to such a low level sabrina 1 May 2013 #38

okay Ms. perfect knower of all things sad-cafe May 2013 #95

WHo fucking cares? MNBrewer May 2013 #97

Those of us who get it nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #98

I don't give a rat's ass what happens to him Aerows May 2013 #32

Well, there is this thing about decency nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #43

Well, thankfully not everyone is like me Aerows May 2013 #46

Nobody is wishing well nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #47

Agreed, bury him Aerows May 2013 #48

Dude, dude, be civil, there are countless drainage ditches we could at least roll him into. Katashi_itto May 2013 #78

Great idea--NOT. That's the stupidest and most short-sighted thing possible to do. MADem May 2013 #44

Glad to see someone with a bit of common sense. Jim Lane May 2013 #59

Cremate him, whether or not the family likes it. MineralMan May 2013 #8

The entire Islamic world wouldn't like it. MADem May 2013 #62

I'm aware of Islamic burial preferences. MineralMan May 2013 #84

Respect all religions, believe in none, that's my motto. Jim Lane May 2013 #90

Very nicely articulated, Mister Jim Lane!!! nt MADem May 2013 #93

No one, not to be rude, in the Islamic world gives a sweet shit what you care about. MADem May 2013 #91

It is somewhat funny that cemeteries are afraid of negative associations Tom Ripley May 2013 #10

I think they are more afraid of vandalism. hrmjustin May 2013 #12

That's exactly what it is. Mariana May 2013 #16

I think you're right, but I don't understand why it just can't be done in secret Tom Ripley May 2013 #18

It would eventual leak out and the spot would be found. hrmjustin May 2013 #19

There are places that have unmarked graves nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #21

As I said it is just easier to say no. hrmjustin May 2013 #22

And to look like vengeful nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #24

Remember these people get money from new customers and patrons. hrmjustin May 2013 #25

They got contracts with the state for indigent and criminal burials nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #27

You have a good point on that one. hrmjustin May 2013 #28

They are with these private places. nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #30

Burial at sea is NOT against "Muslim law." MADem May 2013 #37

"He plans to keep searching for a Muslim burial site for the young man" pintobean May 2013 #35

I don't understand why they don't just ship the body to one of his parents in Russia scarletwoman May 2013 #13

C.O.D. TheCowsCameHome May 2013 #15

Then cremate. ananda May 2013 #14

Bury his ass in my yard, I will charge people to piss on his grave The Straight Story May 2013 #23

No kidding! n/t Aerows May 2013 #36

Lovely, on both of you... nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #41

I know I should be better than that Aerows May 2013 #42

I have seen that in the flesh nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #45

Nobody has a spare wood shipper for rent? RC May 2013 #29

They will have to bury him at sea Warpy May 2013 #31

+1 moondust May 2013 #80

This is stupid. The man is dead. Just bury him already and move on. n/t cynatnite May 2013 #39

+1. exactly. well and succinctly said. cali May 2013 #50

Exactly! Just do it, quietly. Inspired May 2013 #52

Some states have provisions for burial at home, depending on the size of the lot available. bike man May 2013 #53

Well, the deceased lived in a third floor rental. MADem May 2013 #64

All that is probably why "...depending on the size of the lot..." is important. bike man May 2013 #67

I can understand why an Islamic cemetery doesn't want him. MADem May 2013 #82

There are protesters in front of the funeral home davidn3600 May 2013 #54

They have chosen to give Tamernan nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #55

Yeah, I agree with you on that. Jamastiene May 2013 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass May 2013 #58

It always annoys me to no end when I see video clips of people chanting Jamastiene May 2013 #76

It occured to me that this is torture for the family... cynatnite May 2013 #60

I stand with my friend, Peter Stefan. Jim Lane May 2013 #61

I agree with you--I think the gentleman is a profile in courage. nt MADem May 2013 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass May 2013 #65

Cremate him..send his ashes to the prison his brother ends up sentenced to SoCalDem May 2013 #66

send the body home to his parents, for godssake. i'm sure they want to bury him, & i'll bet we HiPointDem May 2013 #68

"We" are NOT refusing to send body back to Russia. LisaL May 2013 #70

i'll bet we are. HiPointDem May 2013 #72

And you would lose that bet. LisaL May 2013 #74

Mr. Stefan is checking into this LeftInTX May 2013 #86

Makes sense. Who would want to create a shrine to Jihad? (nt) Nye Bevan May 2013 #71

Unmarked grave in a pauper's or potters field. backscatter712 May 2013 #79

...Though I do admit the idea of cremating him... backscatter712 May 2013 #81

Bury him in a landfill mwrguy May 2013 #83

^^^this^^^ Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #85

I thought the same thing pintobean May 2013 #89

This ordeal makes me wonder if the Medical Examiner should have held the body LeftInTX May 2013 #87

Might want to ask this guy... backscatter712 May 2013 #88

threads like this point to the lack of difference between DU (in some cases) datasuspect May 2013 #94

He can be buried in my yard, i have a low spot in the back that needs filling MNBrewer May 2013 #96

i would think a cemetery couldn't discriminate orleans May 2013 #99