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AverageJoe90

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65. True, but unfortunately, doomerism's had its own negative effect.

Sat May 4, 2013, 10:30 PM

May 2013

There may be far fewer doomers than deniers(thank goodness, though I wish Monckton & company would fuck off, too), but the doomers are still part of the problem, even if not intentionally.

I'm sure you may have heard about the problem of "climate fatigue", right?

http://www.yaleclimatemediaforum.org/2011/10/is-climate-fatigue-setting-in/

http://e360.yale.edu/feature/apocalypse_fatigue_losing_the_public_on_climate_change/2210/

These are old pieces, yes, but VERY valuable insight is to be found in both articles.

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Yep. Climate doomers are the same way, too. Just ask a certain few of our friends at E & E........ AverageJoe90 May 2013 #16

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I'm sorry if the truth hurts. But that's what it is.....is the truth. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #70

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Is that the best you can do? Fail, man. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #80

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Believe me, I think many of them really WOULD. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #21

Can't argue with that, though, TBH, the climate doomers have definitely contributed to the problem.. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #15

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False equivalency blackspade May 2013 #52

You don't get it, I'm afraid. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #54

Whatever is in EE doesn't get widespread media coverage BainsBane May 2013 #57

True, but unfortunately, doomerism's had its own negative effect. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #65

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Nice try, hatrack, but no cigar. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #75

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I'm just speaking the truth as it is. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #62

Actually that is exactly what you claimed blackspade May 2013 #67

I'm sorry, but it's the truth. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #69

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I had already moved on..... AverageJoe90 May 2013 #87

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It would literally take FOREVER to go into the detail that I'm sure you'll require............ AverageJoe90 May 2013 #76

Pretty full of yourself, aren't you? wtmusic May 2013 #77

Nice try, but no cigar. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #79

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