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AverageJoe90

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70. I'm sorry if the truth hurts. But that's what it is.....is the truth.

Sat May 4, 2013, 11:32 PM

May 2013

I'm sorry, but I've had too much experience to not know better by now.

We need to combat bullshit & ignorance on BOTH sides, just like with any other issue, I don't care if it's gun control, or the SS dilemma, or how to break ourselves away from the control of those ne'er-do-wells amongst the 1%. If we don't, especially with something like climate change, then we ALL lose.....like it or not.

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Belief That "Second Coming" May Be Preventing Climate Change Action [View all] BainsBane May 2013 OP

In other words, we're fucked. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2013 #1

I love that poem BainsBane May 2013 #4

Good plan, B.B. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #18

Wow! I can't believe I've never read that poem. Powerful. mountain grammy May 2013 #42

the context was WWI BainsBane May 2013 #46

Beautiful, just beautiful. mountain grammy May 2013 #49

here's one of my favorites, which i had occasion to paraphrase tonight at DU: HiPointDem May 2013 #84

+1 For Yeats. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #93

Radical religions are the biggest obstacles LuvNewcastle May 2013 #2

The Christian Hole: Bernardo de La Paz May 2013 #9

During the Middle Ages in Europe BainsBane May 2013 #47

And just think how far we'll fall into another hole. mountain grammy May 2013 #50

That is SO effing true, man. SO effing true. n/t AverageJoe90 May 2013 #22

Upon the Second Coming, Christ will set up His Kingdom on Earth for 1000 years. So they are setting DhhD May 2013 #3

Makes you wonder why they'd want to live in a hot hell hole for 1000 years, Christ or no Christ. nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2013 #10

Perhaps some need to get over the fact that we're all going to die someday hatrack May 2013 #13

Yep. But is this necessarily the absolute end all, be all? n/t AverageJoe90 May 2013 #23

It says in that book they worship. zeemike May 2013 #41

There are 3 factors at play IMHO; Ignorance, Greed, and Inertia. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #5

That inertia is on our part BainsBane May 2013 #48

That's true, and that has been part of the outsized power of the so-called "values voter" Warren DeMontague May 2013 #51

I'm scared the Tooth Fairy is gonna fuck me up if I take out the recycling NightWatcher May 2013 #6

This level of stupidity BainsBane May 2013 #53

How many years Has it been since Paul wandered around Ancient Rome littlemissmartypants May 2013 #7

No wonder we haven't seen human time travelers. GeorgeGist May 2013 #8

Nonsense. Bernardo de La Paz May 2013 #11

Agreed. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #20

Once again, believing in 24-karat bullshit trumps rational action hatrack May 2013 #12

Yep. Climate doomers are the same way, too. Just ask a certain few of our friends at E & E........ AverageJoe90 May 2013 #16

Don't compare us to ignorant fundamentalists CreekDog May 2013 #66

I'm sorry if the truth hurts. But that's what it is.....is the truth. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #70

ah, we are too liberal for you CreekDog May 2013 #78

Is that the best you can do? Fail, man. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #80

If Jesus did show up Iliyah May 2013 #14

Believe me, I think many of them really WOULD. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #21

Can't argue with that, though, TBH, the climate doomers have definitely contributed to the problem.. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #15

Sadly mistaken, and you're the one grafting the concept of "sin" into the indifference of Nature hatrack May 2013 #17

Unfortunately, hatrack, I am actually quite correct on this. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #19

+1 LeftyLucy22 May 2013 #39

False equivalency blackspade May 2013 #52

You don't get it, I'm afraid. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #54

Whatever is in EE doesn't get widespread media coverage BainsBane May 2013 #57

True, but unfortunately, doomerism's had its own negative effect. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #65

We just hit CO2 levels unseen since the Pliocene; IOW, since before humans existed hatrack May 2013 #72

Nice try, hatrack, but no cigar. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #75

Great! Now I understand your line of attack. blackspade May 2013 #61

I'm just speaking the truth as it is. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #62

Actually that is exactly what you claimed blackspade May 2013 #67

I'm sorry, but it's the truth. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #69

"Have you been around E & E much, btw?" Nihil May 2013 #85

I had already moved on..... AverageJoe90 May 2013 #87

Oh spare me the "poor little victim" blather Nihil May 2013 #89

These beliefs are delusional and those that think this way are mentally ill. paparush May 2013 #24

Climate doomers aren't much better, though. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #55

What is it that you specifically object to? wtmusic May 2013 #74

It would literally take FOREVER to go into the detail that I'm sure you'll require............ AverageJoe90 May 2013 #76

Pretty full of yourself, aren't you? wtmusic May 2013 #77

Nice try, but no cigar. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #79

To give them some credit, at least they acknowledge the existence of global warming (something pampango May 2013 #83

Yep. They think that it can't be stopped, and that we're all irrevocably doomed, etc...no surprises. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #90

Poll: Majority see climate change affecting US weather struggle4progress May 2013 #25

Gallup Poll: Public Understanding And Concern About Global Warming Keeps Rising struggle4progress May 2013 #26

How many times I have heard... defacto7 May 2013 #27

What kind of Jesus would reward wastrels and destructive little shits? Bernardo de La Paz May 2013 #32

one that can do a cosmic quick fix clean up on earth lunasun May 2013 #38

Actually, the Bible says to be good stewards of our resources. nt LeftyLucy22 May 2013 #40

No, it says defacto7 May 2013 #63

We're not supposed to take that part literally. LAGC May 2013 #68

Q: Do you think the federal government should or should not regulate the release of greenhouse gases struggle4progress May 2013 #28

OMG TNNurse May 2013 #29

How Americans see global warming struggle4progress May 2013 #30

Not the real reason, just the fig leaf they use. dawg May 2013 #31

+ struggle4progress May 2013 #36

I wish I could believe that BainsBane May 2013 #44

Believing that doesn't make it any better. dawg May 2013 #45

just outside Houston, 48 early Am, 75 the high, 6 inches of rain in one day last week. Sunlei May 2013 #33

If they are right about elections, could they be right about climate change? Bernardo de La Paz May 2013 #34

Good one! BainsBane May 2013 #43

Good one, Bernie. n/t AverageJoe90 May 2013 #56

Americans More Likely to Attribute Increasingly Severe Weather to Climate Change, Not End Times struggle4progress May 2013 #35

".... whoopee!!! we`re all gonna die..." madrchsod May 2013 #37

I might die tonight. Downwinder May 2013 #59

If Jesus showed up in America today.... chknltl May 2013 #58

or to Gitmo BainsBane May 2013 #60

Ya but truth b told, chknltl May 2013 #73

And they keep on pumpin' out little Asshole, jrs. n/t dogknob May 2013 #64

And you better believe it, brother! n/t AverageJoe90 May 2013 #71

Religion, once again, is in the way of science sakabatou May 2013 #81

It need not be BainsBane May 2013 #82

End-times belief may get used as an excuse sometimes... Orsino May 2013 #86

Didn't Reagan cite something like that to support environmental indifference during his presidency? Posteritatis May 2013 #88

I've heard this from people multiple times cprise May 2013 #91

K&R Institutionalized delusion never yields the best results. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #92