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socialist_n_TN

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97. And that's why we occasionally need "labels".........

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 03:03 PM

Feb 2012

Labels let you know where you REALLY stand on the political spectrum. Now we don't need to get bogged down in labels, but they serve a useful function at times. It's one of the places that I disagree with Occupy about.

A couple of examples to go along with yours. My brother, who turned me on to this site in the first place and occasionally posts here, has taken to calling himself a socialist after doing some further study on socialism because of the rising public consciousness of socialism. He's not a communist like myself, but he always just thought of himself as a "liberal" UNTIL HE STUDIED MORE ABOUT WHAT HIS VIEWS ON ISSUES REALLY WERE. So now he's a Eugene Debs type socialist because that's where he stands on the ISSUES. Also RE: the Pew polls regarding American's stands on ISSUES as opposed to self identification. The ONLY way those polls can be reconciled is IF you include the ones who self identify as "moderate" with the "liberals" as left leaning on issues. That's the ONLY way to reconcile them. When you do, they dovetail almost perfectly.

Labels aren't necessarily a bad thing.

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I notice a curios division here [View all] nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 OP

I find this debate very interesting. I am sure you can list the benefits rhett o rick Feb 2012 #1

+1 L0oniX Feb 2012 #2

Status quo nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #3

This movement - Occupy - has been somewhat different than past ones. sad sally Feb 2012 #36

It is different nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #37

OWS is not even close to a 1/3 kctim Feb 2012 #58

I'm not sure they "claim to represent" the 99%. They are just annabanana Feb 2012 #59

Really now. You know you are one of the few DUers with a Fanbase on FR? THey think you belong there stevenleser Feb 2012 #67

Just a few problems with your assumption kctim Feb 2012 #89

So citizens united, to mention the top of the problems nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #91

That's not really what's going on kctim Feb 2012 #93

So I have imagined this nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #94

So ... Summer Hathaway Feb 2012 #18

There is a huge difference in those that are "dismissive" of OWS and those that rhett o rick Feb 2012 #25

The call to lock-stepping ... Summer Hathaway Feb 2012 #27

Wow. All that and you still dont say what you stand for. Conservadems are the ones on rhett o rick Feb 2012 #28

Not being a "conservadem" Summer Hathaway Feb 2012 #32

Why are you so afraid to say what you stand for? Do you support single payer health insurance? rhett o rick Feb 2012 #33

I have told you Summer Hathaway Feb 2012 #35

You want to change the discussion from what I said rhett o rick Feb 2012 #44

I have yet to see Summer Hathaway Feb 2012 #48

The labels left and right are fairly well agree upon. Why are those that are neither rhett o rick Feb 2012 #55

This exchange started Summer Hathaway Feb 2012 #69

Just look at this thread. The OWS haters are not discussing issues, they are giggling and making rhett o rick Feb 2012 #73

The crowd went and alerted on the op as well nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #98

Obstacles to overcome/work around me b zola Feb 2012 #50

Pointing out Summer Hathaway Feb 2012 #51

By no means a complete list, but certainly an accurate synopsis, it is plain, in public view and Dragonfli Feb 2012 #64

Well it certainly is a waste of time trying to discuss issues with conserva-dems. rhett o rick Feb 2012 #66

When people use Republican talking points to attack a progressive movement, they are generally sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #45

As per usual Summer Hathaway Feb 2012 #49

Sabrina referred to a right winger as "highly respected"? Link please, you "misremembered" I am sure Dragonfli Feb 2012 #65

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #68

Sabrina is actually more capable than I, I just have a great deal of respect for her Dragonfli Feb 2012 #70

She did not provide links Summer Hathaway Feb 2012 #71

I would never alert on your post, it is within rules and nowhere near offensive Dragonfli Feb 2012 #77

I dont alert often and I didnt alert on her post. rhett o rick Feb 2012 #105

To be honest, what she said about me was fair, I was being a condescending asshole at the time Dragonfli Feb 2012 #107

Dragonfli, You read Sabrina's post correctly suffragette Feb 2012 #72

How disheartening, right wing attacks against OWS openly in a DU post, The Republicans in (D)rag Dragonfli Feb 2012 #80

On way to spot them is that they never discuss issues directly. rhett o rick Feb 2012 #100

I have a belief that a brain disorder in Republicans makes grammar and spelling impossible Dragonfli Feb 2012 #101

LOL, you say that in response to my post where I said "on" in lieu of "one". rhett o rick Feb 2012 #102

I know, it still makes him sound stupid tho. Dragonfli Feb 2012 #103

Oh I agree. But my point was that this troll's hatred was so rhett o rick Feb 2012 #104

I've seen that before, it is like some kind of RW Tourette syndrome symptom Dragonfli Feb 2012 #106

I ask that you read the following post and then tell me you still side with the rhett o rick Feb 2012 #85

Your conclusion is the truth........ socialist_n_TN Feb 2012 #31

They fear change so much that they are willing to allow fellow Americans to suffer. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #34

EXACTLY! Or.......... socialist_n_TN Feb 2012 #39

Yes of course. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #43

That is part of it nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #38

The comparison of the Neophilic vs Neophobic personality types is a discussion I haven't seen since Dragonfli Feb 2012 #74

The words might have changed nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #75

I am going to look for what I was familiar with, but intend to also see what is current Dragonfli Feb 2012 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Feb 2012 #4

Thanks for the kick nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #6

You beat me to it. People might have missed it otherwise. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #7

He is so good that he will keep kicking nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #8

And if he doesn't pintobean Feb 2012 #11

Thanks man nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #13

Not to worry, we will be happy to do it for her. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Feb 2012 #10

Thanks man. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #14

Not so fast, there, bucko! kentauros Feb 2012 #42

The word 'curio' is a short form of the word 'curiosity' which means a curious thing. Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #60

Yes, it's just down the hall from the bookcases division. eom tledford Feb 2012 #5

I am happy that my corporate masters made you smile! randome Feb 2012 #9

I have no idea what the OP is even saying. zappaman Feb 2012 #12

It's in code pintobean Feb 2012 #15

Really? zappaman Feb 2012 #16

You obviously have yet to receive Summer Hathaway Feb 2012 #19

I think it's kinda like windtalking pintobean Feb 2012 #41

I really did put cider through my nose at your reply. DUZY. nt msanthrope Feb 2012 #21

Sorry. I did that once pintobean Feb 2012 #23

Remember: DU is supposed to be fun � don't make it suck n/t DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2012 #78

It's just part of the cycle, if you look at the great Tchotchke Divide of 1828, Brickbat Feb 2012 #17

That you managed to mock this thread, whilst mocking another thread of the OP msanthrope Feb 2012 #22

In a nutshell, some DUers favor American Pickers, while others are devotees petronius Feb 2012 #20

I like both pintobean Feb 2012 #24

I've never seen steaming braunschweiger... Ikonoklast Feb 2012 #26

It made perfect sense to me. Except I don't know the definition of OSD Zalatix Feb 2012 #29

OSD = Occupy San Diego nt pinboy3niner Feb 2012 #30

No. pecwae Feb 2012 #54

Hopefully it'll get cleaned up before it goes in the Wig Party newsletter. LeftyMom Feb 2012 #76

Wow! zappaman Feb 2012 #86

+1 pintobean Feb 2012 #90

It boggles my mind that a Dem would be against OWS. Justice wanted Feb 2012 #40

Only a few. Most Dems are very supportive of OWS. And there are elected Dems who are active sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #47

A tiny handful, and they congregate for snark fests and so it is easy to count them Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #61

Is this an exerpt from your pintobean Feb 2012 #52

Thanks once again for the kick man nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #53

There are Hummell people and there are Lladro people, and they will never agree AngryAmish Feb 2012 #56

Thread over. Brickbat Feb 2012 #57

The conservadems are not going to like this process much. Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #62

I'm guess you consider me a "Conservadem", and I'm not troubled by the spotlight at all... brooklynite Feb 2012 #83

I get it. One of your best friends is in OWS. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #87

They dont have opinions on issues only snarky comments. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #88

Twinkles..... NorthCarolina Feb 2012 #63

I think you mean conservadems and liberdems. If you're going cutesy on one name, it should be Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #79

Brand tarnishing by a right wing faction known as "neo-liberals" has ruined "liberal" ProgressDems Dragonfli Feb 2012 #84

Is there a decoder ring for this? Can I get one? n/t renie408 Feb 2012 #81

It appears there are only 19 of them. pintobean Feb 2012 #96

it's curious btw, and what makes you think that everybody who has some issues with OWS WI_DEM Feb 2012 #92

What the OWS discussion did for me (specifically, the discussion on DU-- not IRL)... LanternWaste Feb 2012 #95

And that's why we occasionally need "labels"......... socialist_n_TN Feb 2012 #97

In a way that will be good nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #99