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In reply to the discussion: I'm going to try starting a conversation about what "responsible" gun laws should look like... [View all]hunter
(40,925 posts)73. I'm hard core and unreasonable about guns.
I posted this in my journal:
Is the second ammendment a good thing? No. Hand me my black Sharpie marker. I'll take care of it.
I think anyone who owns a gun ought to be required to do a six week military boot camp, adapted to their physical abilities, but mentally and physically challenging in every way. Anyone who drops out, gets kicked out for anger issues, being a racist asshole, whatever... sorry, no gun license and three years before you can try again.
In addition gun owners would be required to do six weeks of national service every other year, not necessarily related to military or police types of duty, but working closely with a diverse sampling of the entire U.S. population -- white, black, young, old, immigrant, Christian, Muslim, Atheist, wealthy, poor, urban, rural, LBGT, etc. These gun owners would also be on call for military service at all times.
Licensing requirements for a very limited variety of hunting rifles and shotguns would not be so strict, but still require training and exams, rather like a driver's license.
Possessing a gun without a license would result in a mandatory one year prison sentence.
Posted by hunter | Thu Apr 25, 2013, 07:48 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=journals&uid=109742
I think anyone who owns a gun ought to be required to do a six week military boot camp, adapted to their physical abilities, but mentally and physically challenging in every way. Anyone who drops out, gets kicked out for anger issues, being a racist asshole, whatever... sorry, no gun license and three years before you can try again.
In addition gun owners would be required to do six weeks of national service every other year, not necessarily related to military or police types of duty, but working closely with a diverse sampling of the entire U.S. population -- white, black, young, old, immigrant, Christian, Muslim, Atheist, wealthy, poor, urban, rural, LBGT, etc. These gun owners would also be on call for military service at all times.
Licensing requirements for a very limited variety of hunting rifles and shotguns would not be so strict, but still require training and exams, rather like a driver's license.
Possessing a gun without a license would result in a mandatory one year prison sentence.
Posted by hunter | Thu Apr 25, 2013, 07:48 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=journals&uid=109742
The service requirement may seem harsh, but I think we need to take away the guns of racists, misogynists, people with anger issues, and people who have histories of violent crimes, especially domestic violence.
For reasonable peaceful people these "boot camps" and recurring public service requirements could be almost vacation-like. Gun owners would meet interesting people from all walks of life. For some it would be hell, they would have to work with and live with the sorts of people they most fear. If they can't do it they shouldn't have guns.
I think the military requirement is reasonable too. If one is willing to shoot someone in self defense, one ought to be willing to take up arms in defense of their nation. It might also be possible to disband much of our standing military.
Yep, I know it's a fantasy...
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I'm going to try starting a conversation about what "responsible" gun laws should look like... [View all]
cherokeeprogressive
May 2013
OP
That seems like a very reasonable compromise on the rkba issue. I'm happy to be the first k&r.
Electric Monk
May 2013
#1
I'm sure there is some measure of people who are afraid they'd fail the background check.
cherokeeprogressive
May 2013
#4
Couldn't they be retrofitted to comply? Think of all the gunsmiths it'd provide extra jobs for. nt
Electric Monk
May 2013
#61
I will assume you agree NO to national reciprocity like the Cronyn amendment or
graham4anything
May 2013
#2
Maybe no one knows who or what the "Cronyn amendment" (sic) is?? If you are going to stand up,
Ghost in the Machine
May 2013
#30
it's the prize found in the bottom of the cracker jack box, that says the NRA got what it wants
graham4anything
May 2013
#32
How do you enforce DUI laws before subjecting a driver to a breathalizer test?
cherokeeprogressive
May 2013
#11
Is this a Ceasar Word Salad, a House Word Salad, or a Wedge Word Salad?
cherokeeprogressive
May 2013
#15
your true colors show. I note again you did not say anything about the NRA pet project-recirpocity
graham4anything
May 2013
#20
I note you made no mention of reciprocity, but focus on minutia. So so so telling
graham4anything
May 2013
#28
computers can get info nationwide. That is why now a ticket in Fl. costs & points on NJ insurance
graham4anything
May 2013
#57
Every car has a VIN. Every gun has a serial number. I don't see the difference.
cherokeeprogressive
May 2013
#17
What a sleight of hand. If you don't register it, who knows that it is yours?
graham4anything
May 2013
#22
Well. *MY* 30-06 *does have a removable magazine, but it only holds 4 shells, too.
Ghost in the Machine
May 2013
#23
I think a Firearm Operator ID Card is a great way to meet both of you two's concerns
Recursion
May 2013
#27
That sounds rational, on its face value.. but how how would you confirm the permit hasn't been...
Ghost in the Machine
May 2013
#31
Good idea, but don't the cops and gun shops (Federally Licensed Dealers) use NCIC systems, which
Ghost in the Machine
May 2013
#37
Responsible Gun Law Number One - Heavily Tax Ammunition - Trace All Gunpowder With Taggants
cantbeserious
May 2013
#34
Pistol owners who let somebody murder with their weapon should go away for a long stretch
Kolesar
May 2013
#41