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bvar22

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59. No. You are mistaken.

Sun May 5, 2013, 05:25 PM

May 2013

Mistaken, but not alone, which is unfortunate for the Working Class in our country.

Money does NOT equal Wealth.

Wealth IS created when a raw material is mixed with labor,
and there is a measurable improvement in the state of that raw material.

Service and Administrative Jobs are necessary to assist the Wealth Creators (LABOR),
but by themselves they create no WEALTH.

If a society marginalizes the Wealth Creators (LABOR) and attempts to exist solely on Service & Administrative jobs(Corporate Management, Wall Street, Investmant Banks, etc), then you WILL see exactly what we have in the USA today.

Corporate Profits Hit Record High While Worker Wages Hit Record Low
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/12/03/1270541/corporate-profits-wages-record/?mobile=nc

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Zero Manufacturing Jobs Added. Zero. [View all] marmar May 2013 OP

du rec. nt xchrom May 2013 #1

Anyone Who Says There's A Manufacturing Revolution In America Needs To Look At This Chart xchrom May 2013 #2

That chart needs to go back to 2004 FreakinDJ May 2013 #37

Uh, Bush didn't destroy our manufacturing sector. bvar22 May 2013 #48

manufacturing jobs were being lost as far back as the 60s. the 80s was another high point. HiPointDem May 2013 #53

your comparing opening the door to opening the Flood Gates FreakinDJ May 2013 #62

A depressing reality, for sure. nt Honeycombe8 May 2013 #3

The only thing the repubs will allow are tax cuts for businesses n2doc May 2013 #4

I overheard part of a conversation last Friday SoCalDem May 2013 #5

Yes, the conveyor belt is broken Yo_Mama May 2013 #12

I work in landscape/horticultre as a degree holder... Earth_First May 2013 #13

Those Obama/Pelosi/Reid tax cuts for the rich aren't working? RandiFan1290 May 2013 #6

It's even worse than that JayhawkSD May 2013 #7

The definition of "job" is at issue too SoCalDem May 2013 #9

Thanks for breaking this down Cal Carpenter May 2013 #15

Most of what's going on is redistribution of the same work and pay Yo_Mama May 2013 #23

"increasing immigration"? Are you referring to "immigration reform legislation"? LooseWilly May 2013 #101

Source of data? (BTW in March we supposedly lost 513,000 part time jobs) progree May 2013 #78

Repealing NAFTA and GATT votesparks May 2013 #8

Maybe Sen Clinton can run on that. nm rhett o rick May 2013 #71

Don't have to repeal GATT. It's been dead for 20 years. If it were not for oil imports from Mexico pampango May 2013 #86

I thought we were all going to get those 3D printers so we can each Skidmore May 2013 #10

With cheap printer ink for all jsr May 2013 #16

I'm gonna print money with mine leftstreet May 2013 #18

Hey, I like the way you think! KansDem May 2013 #31

but but but "The lowest jobless rate since 2008!" progressoid May 2013 #11

Yes, these "jobs" are total B.S. dotymed May 2013 #14

This calls for a bit more boot-strapping, pronto! Orrex May 2013 #17

Obviously this article is lying. Arctic Dave May 2013 #19

The president will fight very hard for the little people jsr May 2013 #24

With an automated battallion Newest Reality May 2013 #76

It will make the manufacturing sector boom BuelahWitch May 2013 #69

It ain't like we can't use more sorefeet May 2013 #20

happening at high level too... Locrian May 2013 #82

Manufacturing is never coming back. NYtoBush-Drop Dead May 2013 #21

+100 !!! (NT) reACTIONary May 2013 #34

It's time to teach our children how to grow food... Blanks May 2013 #38

I agree. Now its just the small matter of leaving them a stable climate to grow in. nt raouldukelives May 2013 #97

True. We could do a little better in that respect. eom Blanks May 2013 #107

Read and "do math" ? bvar22 May 2013 #49

after reading and math NYtoBush-Drop Dead May 2013 #54

What percentage of the Working Class Population of the USA... bvar22 May 2013 #57

You do realize they teach math and Science! in India and China (as well as everywhere else), right? LooseWilly May 2013 #102

people are sick of disposable, inferior CRAP Skittles May 2013 #60

No reading or math in manufacturing? Union Scribe May 2013 #72

+1: I didn't like that tone either Populist_Prole May 2013 #98

Manufacturing is not the problem. It's manufacturing jobs. pampango May 2013 #89

The Rise of the Machines BOG PERSON May 2013 #90

+1 HiPointDem May 2013 #99

The US has the biggest manufacturing economy on the last time I checked Kolesar May 2013 #105

Obama was reelected. You and the rest of the haters lost. Get over it. MjolnirTime May 2013 #22

First off, the article identifies problems and proposes some solutions....... marmar May 2013 #32

I'm Sure You Voted For Obama HangOnKids May 2013 #46

that's actually a good description of them Skittles May 2013 #81

It pays the bills, though Occulus May 2013 #85

I remember when we used to go nuts about the Bush Administration's deceitful presentation of Marr May 2013 #25

Posting and reposting talking points is one of the jobs the Obama administration created. OnyxCollie May 2013 #27

lol-- well, there's ONE business that's booming. Marr May 2013 #30

Around the clock, no less. Fuddnik May 2013 #70

PROpaganda makes SENSE. Occulus May 2013 #87

Here ProSense May 2013 #88

Chessmaster. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #26

The small independent city of Galax in SW VA has lost 2700 mfg jobs. A lot of furniture byeya May 2013 #28

The same should be done to a lot of our resources. eom Blanks May 2013 #39

Assembling burgers isn't considered a manufacturing job? GoneFishin May 2013 #29

Jobs SamKnause May 2013 #33

Depends on your definition of manufacturing job... Aviation Pro May 2013 #35

+100 !!! (NT) reACTIONary May 2013 #36

You are onto something. Blanks May 2013 #40

the people calling for the removal of agricultural subsidies are the same people who called for HiPointDem May 2013 #43

There's a difference between calling for the removal of subsidies... Blanks May 2013 #44

there may be a difference in your mind, but not in the minds of those pushing such policies. HiPointDem May 2013 #45

I see your point. Blanks May 2013 #50

does not follow. HiPointDem May 2013 #52

Really. Blanks May 2013 #58

not in this period, it didn't. HiPointDem May 2013 #41

Did they cheer all the previous months when manufacturing numbers were positive? bhikkhu May 2013 #42

Nothing's magical about manufacturing Recursion May 2013 #47

Manufacturing jobs CREATE wealth. bvar22 May 2013 #51

Any job (service or manufacturing) creates wealth Recursion May 2013 #56

No. You are mistaken. bvar22 May 2013 #59

Ah, so teachers don't create wealth? Recursion May 2013 #61

Teachers take a Raw Material, bvar22 May 2013 #65

It's amazing to me that you're actually arguing this point. Marr May 2013 #91

It amazes me that you don't realize how wrong you are Recursion May 2013 #92

^That was poorly written, too...eom Kolesar May 2013 #103

Because manufacturing is STILL the engine of mass EMployment for any large country kenny blankenship May 2013 #64

Excellent points. nt Union Scribe May 2013 #73

Is impossible for everyone to be a net exporter Recursion May 2013 #79

This was not ProSense May 2013 #55

That's OK - We'll all get rich in the stock market! kenny blankenship May 2013 #63

K & R !!! WillyT May 2013 #66

Our economy/US Government-like watching slow heart failure. MichiganVote May 2013 #67

The Latest Reporting Period Is April DallasNE May 2013 #68

Good catch. Lots of "typos". Sigh. Ur reward: manufacturing employment data for ur viewing pleasure progree May 2013 #95

Thanks For Correcting DallasNE May 2013 #100

It gets worse... The Robots are here already. TampaAnimusVortex May 2013 #74

Yes, Newest Reality May 2013 #77

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #75

. blkmusclmachine May 2013 #80

Manufacturing is growing FreeJoe May 2013 #83

"The future is in performing tasks that a computer or robot can't do." BOG PERSON May 2013 #84

Think again on the dog walkers progree May 2013 #93

And writers... FreeJoe May 2013 #94

Some corrections to article: March -> April. And "January and February" -> "February and March" progree May 2013 #96

So the President didn't create a million jobs since January and he's a failure Kolesar May 2013 #104

Jan thru April: 783,000 non-farm payroll jobs, but only 39,000 manufacturing jobs progree May 2013 #106