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jazzimov

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79. EXACTLY. Behaviour modification.

Sun May 5, 2013, 05:31 PM

May 2013

It would force the gun owner to be more responsible, and to actually USE the safety precautions that are required. No system is perfect, but I think this is a much better idea than the alternatives.

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I'm going to try starting a conversation about what "responsible" gun laws should look like... [View all] cherokeeprogressive May 2013 OP

That seems like a very reasonable compromise on the rkba issue. I'm happy to be the first k&r. Electric Monk May 2013 #1

I'm sure there is some measure of people who are afraid they'd fail the background check. cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #4

It bans every rifle designed in the past century or so Recursion May 2013 #21

Couldn't they be retrofitted to comply? Think of all the gunsmiths it'd provide extra jobs for. nt Electric Monk May 2013 #61

I'm all for stimulus funds Recursion May 2013 #62

I will assume you agree NO to national reciprocity like the Cronyn amendment or graham4anything May 2013 #2

Every time you make the "no bullets" argument, I have to laugh... cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #8

I note you didn't answer about the Cornyn amendment graham4anything May 2013 #13

Maybe no one knows who or what the "Cronyn amendment" (sic) is?? If you are going to stand up, Ghost in the Machine May 2013 #30

it's the prize found in the bottom of the cracker jack box, that says the NRA got what it wants graham4anything May 2013 #32

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name calling, as I am Jewish, I have heard it before. graham4anything May 2013 #51

sounds like everyone is supposed to like DeadEyeDyck May 2013 #3

I didn't say anything about voting. cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #6

gun humper logic Skittles May 2013 #7

If only you'd schedule this one for an... cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #9

alas, it doesn't work Skittles May 2013 #16

Touche... cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #19

Sounds reasonable to me! jazzimov May 2013 #5

how can it be enforced BEFORE someone is killed or hurt? graham4anything May 2013 #10

How do you enforce DUI laws before subjecting a driver to a breathalizer test? cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #11

All automobiles are registered and have a national registry. graham4anything May 2013 #12

Is this a Ceasar Word Salad, a House Word Salad, or a Wedge Word Salad? cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #15

your true colors show. I note again you did not say anything about the NRA pet project-recirpocity graham4anything May 2013 #20

You know, sometimes I'm not even sure we speak the same language. cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #25

I note you made no mention of reciprocity, but focus on minutia. So so so telling graham4anything May 2013 #28

A few years ago Minneapolis installed cameras Jenoch May 2013 #53

You don't live somewhere with speeding/red light cameras, do you? Recursion May 2013 #35

Red light cams. Never seen a speeding cam. cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #71

California has something I wish NYC could have graham4anything May 2013 #94

"Most families have ONE car driven by the entire driving age family." Jenoch May 2013 #55

I think you are due beer and travel money and many experiences. nt madinmaryland May 2013 #92

Tell us more about this Jenoch May 2013 #54

computers can get info nationwide. That is why now a ticket in Fl. costs & points on NJ insurance graham4anything May 2013 #57

I didn't ask about tickes and fines. Jenoch May 2013 #60

It can make the gun owner more careful treestar May 2013 #69

EXACTLY. Behaviour modification. jazzimov May 2013 #79

I believe serial numbers should be like vin numbers on cars.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #14

Every car has a VIN. Every gun has a serial number. I don't see the difference. cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #17

What a sleight of hand. If you don't register it, who knows that it is yours? graham4anything May 2013 #22

You just described the gun nuts worse nightmare,... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #29

You need to check out Snopes about that picture. nt hack89 May 2013 #42

LOL! That's even better!... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #56

Very rare I would imagine. hack89 May 2013 #58

I'm more impressed by this... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #59

I would collect cars if I had that kind of money hack89 May 2013 #64

Kinda hard to fit in a basement though. Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #66

That's not voluntary... Pelican May 2013 #95

Do you mean someone could legally own one magazine per handgun? Recursion May 2013 #18

Slow down. Here's where it gets dicey... cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #24

But why worry about long guns at all? They aren't what's killing people Recursion May 2013 #26

Well. *MY* 30-06 *does have a removable magazine, but it only holds 4 shells, too. Ghost in the Machine May 2013 #23

I think a Firearm Operator ID Card is a great way to meet both of you two's concerns Recursion May 2013 #27

That sounds rational, on its face value.. but how how would you confirm the permit hasn't been... Ghost in the Machine May 2013 #31

Great question: my answer is a website and 800 number Recursion May 2013 #36

Good idea, but don't the cops and gun shops (Federally Licensed Dealers) use NCIC systems, which Ghost in the Machine May 2013 #37

Obviously there are privacy concerns, but these can be addressed Recursion May 2013 #38

This the first gun thread I will gladly R&K. longship May 2013 #33

Responsible Gun Law Number One - Heavily Tax Ammunition - Trace All Gunpowder With Taggants cantbeserious May 2013 #34

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So if your friend borrows your car, gets drunk and kills someone hack89 May 2013 #43

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You are not criminally liable hack89 May 2013 #45

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If you can prove willful negligence in court then sure hack89 May 2013 #48

The car analogy as usual is not valid treestar May 2013 #70

Unfortunately the post I was replying to was deleted hack89 May 2013 #75

Pistol owners who let somebody murder with their weapon should go away for a long stretch Kolesar May 2013 #41

"Let." Igel May 2013 #72

Who let Mr. Obtuse into the forum this afternoon? ... eom Kolesar May 2013 #86

One flaw with your registry scheme hack89 May 2013 #46

Gun possessors should have a current license... Sancho May 2013 #49

Insurance companies don't care if there are kids in the home hack89 May 2013 #65

If policies were required for guns (like auto and homeowners), they would probably ask about kids... Sancho May 2013 #74

I specifically insured my gun hack89 May 2013 #76

congrats on this thread. Nice to see some gun owners here stepping up. CTyankee May 2013 #50

I'm giving this a rec. Robb May 2013 #52

Let me also add Recursion May 2013 #63

Thanks cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #67

Sounds reasonable to me treestar May 2013 #68

I'm hard core and unreasonable about guns. hunter May 2013 #73

Cherokee, we wouldn't even need to debate guns if more gunners felt same way. Hoyt May 2013 #77

Banning guns like the Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 795 is unreasonable. Skeeter Barnes May 2013 #78

"No convicted felon should ever be allowed to possess a gun... Comatose Sphagetti May 2013 #80

you do the crime, you do the time DeadEyeDyck May 2013 #81

Very simplistic and jingoistic. Comatose Sphagetti May 2013 #84

Look, this is a non starter. It may very well be DeadEyeDyck May 2013 #82

Rubricizing? Comatose Sphagetti May 2013 #83

These cops needed a lot more than three rounds to defend themselves: Skeeter Barnes May 2013 #85

I think this is a good place to start. LWolf May 2013 #87

I'm Curious About This Timbuk3 May 2013 #88

A sober me wouldn't have put it quite that way... cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #89

Thanks for your reply Timbuk3 May 2013 #90

Any thoughts on a tier system? ejbrush May 2013 #91

I agree with a lot of wat you have there PD Turk May 2013 #93