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MADem

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82. I can understand why an Islamic cemetery doesn't want him.

Mon May 6, 2013, 01:29 PM

May 2013

Even if they took him, they'd have to bury him in the "bad Muslim/Infidel" way (left side/facing away from Meccah)--so what's the point?

Burial at sea is the way to go, IMO--unless they want to ship him home and let his tomb become a martyr's pilgrimage spot.

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No One Wants To Bury Tamerlan Tsarnaev. [View all] JaneyVee May 2013 OP

Take him to Hart Island, NY. reformist2 May 2013 #1

Sounds like a good idea, but can frogmarch May 2013 #51

Yeah, I don't know. I just learned about the place a few weeks ago, still creeps me out! reformist2 May 2013 #56

It creeps me out too! frogmarch May 2013 #57

I think places all over have "potter's fields" as parts of cemetaries. Jamastiene May 2013 #73

I can't say I'm surprised BainsBane May 2013 #2

So did Timothy McVeigh atreides1 May 2013 #77

I am not surprised! hrmjustin May 2013 #3

They've checked neighboring states, too--no joy. MADem May 2013 #4

Or send him to Chechnya where they're putting up pro-Tsarnaev Cha May 2013 #26

Well, his family is in Dagestan, not Chechnya. MADem May 2013 #33

Yeah, I know.. They're scamming. The poster guys probably Cha May 2013 #40

they lived in dagestan before they came to the us, so i don't know why you think they're scamming. HiPointDem May 2013 #69

Follow the conversation. Cha is talking about the poster - putter- uppers in Chechnya. MADem May 2013 #92

Tamerlan Tsarnaev is gone. He doesn't exist anymore. annabanana May 2013 #5

Just cremate him and send him to his mother, if you can find her. Drale May 2013 #6

His family won't allow it in all likelyhood. hrmjustin May 2013 #7

I agree 100% pintobean May 2013 #9

Against Islamic Law nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #11

Your kidding right? Drale May 2013 #17

Yes, I am nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #20

+1 nt Live and Learn May 2013 #34

It depends entirely on the Imam's interpretation. MADem May 2013 #49

I agree, Nadin. But don't expect many to understand. We have sunk to such a low level sabrina 1 May 2013 #38

okay Ms. perfect knower of all things sad-cafe May 2013 #95

WHo fucking cares? MNBrewer May 2013 #97

Those of us who get it nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #98

I don't give a rat's ass what happens to him Aerows May 2013 #32

Well, there is this thing about decency nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #43

Well, thankfully not everyone is like me Aerows May 2013 #46

Nobody is wishing well nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #47

Agreed, bury him Aerows May 2013 #48

Dude, dude, be civil, there are countless drainage ditches we could at least roll him into. Katashi_itto May 2013 #78

Great idea--NOT. That's the stupidest and most short-sighted thing possible to do. MADem May 2013 #44

Glad to see someone with a bit of common sense. Jim Lane May 2013 #59

Cremate him, whether or not the family likes it. MineralMan May 2013 #8

The entire Islamic world wouldn't like it. MADem May 2013 #62

I'm aware of Islamic burial preferences. MineralMan May 2013 #84

Respect all religions, believe in none, that's my motto. Jim Lane May 2013 #90

Very nicely articulated, Mister Jim Lane!!! nt MADem May 2013 #93

No one, not to be rude, in the Islamic world gives a sweet shit what you care about. MADem May 2013 #91

It is somewhat funny that cemeteries are afraid of negative associations Tom Ripley May 2013 #10

I think they are more afraid of vandalism. hrmjustin May 2013 #12

That's exactly what it is. Mariana May 2013 #16

I think you're right, but I don't understand why it just can't be done in secret Tom Ripley May 2013 #18

It would eventual leak out and the spot would be found. hrmjustin May 2013 #19

There are places that have unmarked graves nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #21

As I said it is just easier to say no. hrmjustin May 2013 #22

And to look like vengeful nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #24

Remember these people get money from new customers and patrons. hrmjustin May 2013 #25

They got contracts with the state for indigent and criminal burials nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #27

You have a good point on that one. hrmjustin May 2013 #28

They are with these private places. nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #30

Burial at sea is NOT against "Muslim law." MADem May 2013 #37

"He plans to keep searching for a Muslim burial site for the young man" pintobean May 2013 #35

I don't understand why they don't just ship the body to one of his parents in Russia scarletwoman May 2013 #13

C.O.D. TheCowsCameHome May 2013 #15

Then cremate. ananda May 2013 #14

Bury his ass in my yard, I will charge people to piss on his grave The Straight Story May 2013 #23

No kidding! n/t Aerows May 2013 #36

Lovely, on both of you... nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #41

I know I should be better than that Aerows May 2013 #42

I have seen that in the flesh nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #45

Nobody has a spare wood shipper for rent? RC May 2013 #29

They will have to bury him at sea Warpy May 2013 #31

+1 moondust May 2013 #80

This is stupid. The man is dead. Just bury him already and move on. n/t cynatnite May 2013 #39

+1. exactly. well and succinctly said. cali May 2013 #50

Exactly! Just do it, quietly. Inspired May 2013 #52

Some states have provisions for burial at home, depending on the size of the lot available. bike man May 2013 #53

Well, the deceased lived in a third floor rental. MADem May 2013 #64

All that is probably why "...depending on the size of the lot..." is important. bike man May 2013 #67

I can understand why an Islamic cemetery doesn't want him. MADem May 2013 #82

There are protesters in front of the funeral home davidn3600 May 2013 #54

They have chosen to give Tamernan nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #55

Yeah, I agree with you on that. Jamastiene May 2013 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass May 2013 #58

It always annoys me to no end when I see video clips of people chanting Jamastiene May 2013 #76

It occured to me that this is torture for the family... cynatnite May 2013 #60

I stand with my friend, Peter Stefan. Jim Lane May 2013 #61

I agree with you--I think the gentleman is a profile in courage. nt MADem May 2013 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass May 2013 #65

Cremate him..send his ashes to the prison his brother ends up sentenced to SoCalDem May 2013 #66

send the body home to his parents, for godssake. i'm sure they want to bury him, & i'll bet we HiPointDem May 2013 #68

"We" are NOT refusing to send body back to Russia. LisaL May 2013 #70

i'll bet we are. HiPointDem May 2013 #72

And you would lose that bet. LisaL May 2013 #74

Mr. Stefan is checking into this LeftInTX May 2013 #86

Makes sense. Who would want to create a shrine to Jihad? (nt) Nye Bevan May 2013 #71

Unmarked grave in a pauper's or potters field. backscatter712 May 2013 #79

...Though I do admit the idea of cremating him... backscatter712 May 2013 #81

Bury him in a landfill mwrguy May 2013 #83

^^^this^^^ Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #85

I thought the same thing pintobean May 2013 #89

This ordeal makes me wonder if the Medical Examiner should have held the body LeftInTX May 2013 #87

Might want to ask this guy... backscatter712 May 2013 #88

threads like this point to the lack of difference between DU (in some cases) datasuspect May 2013 #94

He can be buried in my yard, i have a low spot in the back that needs filling MNBrewer May 2013 #96

i would think a cemetery couldn't discriminate orleans May 2013 #99