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Luminous Animal

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13. Yes he did know and clearly states that in the chat logs with Lamo...
Mon May 6, 2013, 03:37 PM
May 2013
Bradley Manning: hypothetical question: if you had free reign over classified networks for long periods of time… say, 8-9 months… and you saw incredible things, awful things… things that belonged in the public domain, and not on some server stored in a dark room in Washington DC… what would you do?
Bradley Manning: or Guantanamo, Bagram, Bucca, Taji, VBC for that matter…
Bradley Manning: things that would have an impact on 6.7 billion people
Bradley Manning: say… a database of half a million events during the iraq war… from 2004 to 2009… with reports, date time groups, lat-lon locations, casualty figures… ? or 260,000 state department cables from embassies and consulates all over the world, explaining how the first world exploits the third, in detail, from an internal perspective?

Adrian Lamo: What sort of content?
Bradley Manning: uhm… crazy, almost criminal political backdealings… the non-PR-versions of world events and crises… uhm… all kinds of stuff like everything from the buildup to the Iraq War during Powell, to what the actual content of “aid packages” is: for instance, PR that the US is sending aid to pakistan includes funding for water/food/clothing… that much is true, it includes that, but the other 85% of it is for F-16 fighters and munitions to aid in the Afghanistan effort, so the US can call in Pakistanis to do aerial bombing instead of americans potentially killing civilians and creating a PR crisis
Bradley Manning: theres so much… it affects everybody on earth… everywhere there’s a US post… there’s a diplomatic scandal that will be revealed… Iceland, the Vatican, Spain, Brazil, Madascar, if its a country, and its recognized by the US as a country, its got dirt on it

Adrian Lamo: what kind of scandal?
Bradley Manning: hundreds of them
Adrian Lamo: like what? I’m genuinely curious about details.

Bradley Manning: uhmm… the Holy See and its position on the Vatican sex scandals
Adrian Lamo: play it by ear
Bradley Manning: the broiling one in Germany
Bradley Manning: im sorry, there’s so many… its impossible for any one human to read all quarter-million… and not feel overwhelmed… and possibly desensitized

Bradley Manning: Apache Weapons Team video of 12 JUL 07 airstrike on Reuters Journos… some sketchy but fairly normal street-folk… and civilians

Bradley Manning: at first glance… it was just a bunch of guys getting shot up by a helicopter… no big deal… about two dozen more where that came from right… but something struck me as odd with the van thing… and also the fact it was being stored in a JAG officer’s directory… so i looked into it… eventually tracked down the date, and then the exact GPS co-ord… and i was like… ok, so thats what happened… cool… then i went to the regular internet… and it was still on my mind… so i typed into goog… the date, and the location… and then i see this http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/13/world/middleeast/13iraq.html

Adrian Lamo: what do you consider the highlights?
Bradley Manning: The Gharani airstrike videos and full report, Iraq war event log, the “Gitmo Papers”, and State Department cable database

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K&R nt Mnemosyne May 2013 #1
It really is one of the best personal defense of Mannng that Luminous Animal May 2013 #3
Hedges did not use an editor for this, did he? randome May 2013 #2
It's a long article that covers much more than Manning. Luminous Animal May 2013 #4
I did not read the entire thing. Thanks. randome May 2013 #9
"Ten percent of the U.S. military is gay." Anyone have a citation for that? Common Sense Party May 2013 #5
It's probably closer to 3%. Julian probably used the general Luminous Animal May 2013 #7
"I fear for us all" navarth May 2013 #6
Kick. Luminous Animal May 2013 #8
Manning belongs in jail. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #10
You're going to take a lot of heat leftynyc May 2013 #11
Yes he did know and clearly states that in the chat logs with Lamo... Luminous Animal May 2013 #13
So you quoted him specifically saying he hadn't read everything he released Recursion May 2013 #17
He didn't say he hadn't read everything. Luminous Animal May 2013 #19
Well said... SidDithers May 2013 #18
The first sentence of the article is total hyperbole. Not to mention a total run-on. randome May 2013 #12
None so blind ... Fantastic Anarchist May 2013 #16
Kick. Luminous Animal May 2013 #14
Kick. Luminous Animal May 2013 #15
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