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Savannahmann

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73. We began to put party over principal.
Mon May 6, 2013, 04:38 PM
May 2013

We decided that electing Democrats was more important than what those Democrats stood for. We decided that gaining power, was the ends, not the means. We get the power, and then we do nothing with it except mimic the Rethug actions.

How often have you heard that if we had Nancy Pelosi as speaker again, we could get this legislation through, or that bill acted upon. Yet, when we had Nancy as speaker, we got nothing done, we had one minor victory, the Insurance Protection act, we called the ACA, and the Rethugs called Obamacare. We took no actions on Guns, none on Immigration, zero done on Gay Marriage. We didn't even come out against Don't Ask Don't Tell until Vice President Biden came out in one of his famous off the cuff blurted statements. Then two weeks later, after watching the rest of us shout and scream, the President decided he had evolved on the issue.

I have no idea what took so long, I guess they were checking statements and possible lines he could deliver with the polls and the focus groups.

We work to get those people elected who promise to fight for us, and once elected, they don't do squat. When we object, we get told that if we don't work just as hard to get them re-elected, then the Rethugs will win. OK, what's the difference if it's a Rethug administration or a Democratic Administration is illegally wiretapping everyone? We're still wiretapped illegally.

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I think you answered the question in your last paragraph. The DLC/Third Way have taken over the sabrina 1 May 2013 #1
couldn't agree more...Clinton WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2013 #32
Yes, and Republicans publicly signing on JimDandy May 2013 #39
well said RedCappedBandit May 2013 #59
well SwampG8r May 2013 #2
The Democratic Party has become a failed institute. Arctic Dave May 2013 #3
There is a platform, they run on it. Progressive dog May 2013 #4
"Governing on it is optional." How very true. LuvNewcastle May 2013 #6
Local Politics is fredamae May 2013 #22
Start attending and then run for Committeewoman/Committeeman JimDandy May 2013 #41
Local politics are important. Local politics are how the far right took over the GOP. HiPointDem May 2013 #48
But... we don't have the three decades it took them to get to where they are now. Occulus May 2013 #71
$$$ n2doc May 2013 #5
Ding ding ding! We have a winner! n/t Mister Ed May 2013 #7
WHAT HAPPENED! AlbertCat May 2013 #8
The platform is now sanitized. former9thward May 2013 #9
Had one in 2012 over putting "God" back in the platform after conservatives called us out. dawg May 2013 #17
Yes, but that was quickly ended. former9thward May 2013 #19
Candidates don't refer specifically to the platform LuvNewcastle May 2013 #20
If you read the platform it is very generic. former9thward May 2013 #23
There's no way to sanction him legally, but he would lose LuvNewcastle May 2013 #26
The Third Way AgingAmerican May 2013 #10
It does have a platform. See it at this link: MineralMan May 2013 #11
You Have To Ask - The DLC Will Not Be Held Accountable cantbeserious May 2013 #12
But, but, but...DINOs are electable!11111111 Apophis May 2013 #13
...and in SOME cases Progressives are not. brooklynite May 2013 #21
Is that supposed to impress becaue her brother is on TV? If Blue Dogs were so electable Bluenorthwest May 2013 #74
I think the fact that her brother is on TV is completely irrelevant... brooklynite May 2013 #75
Look to the top, the president quinnox May 2013 #14
In addition to the national Democratic Party Platform, MineralMan May 2013 #15
Thanks to Obama and his pals I find it increasingly difficult to care Demo_Chris May 2013 #16
Support for the Democratic Platform is an act of disloyalty to the Democratic Party. dawg May 2013 #18
Here's an excerpt from the 1934 Minnesota Farmer-Labor Party platform RufusTFirefly May 2013 #24
Hope and Change I can believe in libdude May 2013 #63
Great post, Cleita, thank you. Zorra May 2013 #25
Makes it easier to shift with the winds. Granny M May 2013 #27
They do. They just keep it secret from the rank & file because it is to support corporations first on point May 2013 #28
Honesty.... Pinup May 2013 #29
"Honesty"? Hell Hath No Fury May 2013 #33
There are some... Pinup May 2013 #34
Links please? Hell Hath No Fury May 2013 #40
Sure, as long as you don't pay any attention to actual polling. jeff47 May 2013 #45
RIGHT ON FISCAL ISSUES? Skittles May 2013 #50
Excellent suggestion! tblue May 2013 #30
Since bribery has basically been legalized... 99Forever May 2013 #31
because its leadership has moved so far to the right they are really closet republicans? nt msongs May 2013 #35
Nicely, concisely stated. n/t truedelphi May 2013 #69
It's as though "if we do this what will the Republicans say?" Rosa Luxemburg May 2013 #36
Sold its soul to the corporations and turned its back on FDR ideals. L0oniX May 2013 #37
Clinton felt the goal was to give Republicans a run for their money,...using the same money. Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #44
And every Dem politican who does this does it because they truedelphi May 2013 #70
It's all one party now, in many ways. Bad cop/worse cop. elehhhhna May 2013 #38
Parties change...and coalitions change. nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #42
This sums it up nicely... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #43
Because of your last paragraph. jeff47 May 2013 #46
Because affluent yuppies have taken over the Party... YoungDemCA May 2013 #47
Mostly they pander to Hate Radio - Doctor_J May 2013 #49
Because a lot of people think we cannot lose our Party... kentuck May 2013 #51
We've got one but our leadership could really care less. pa28 May 2013 #52
I go to the meetings and volunteer at the office. hay rick May 2013 #53
What are you doing at the local level? tabbycat31 May 2013 #54
Some ability to run as a democrat is possible - but very limited truedelphi May 2013 #67
I know every state is different tabbycat31 May 2013 #68
because they sold it PD Turk May 2013 #55
20 years of free trade kool aid nt markiv May 2013 #56
It's buried under DLC/3rd Way "not as bad" bullshit. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #57
Another thing is too many people have bought into the team sport politics. cui bono May 2013 #58
That's very true. And truedelphi May 2013 #60
Yes! I'm so tired of the "well would you rather have Romney (or whoever)" response. cui bono May 2013 #64
My answer to that is always "If we had Romney, the Devil we deal with would at least be Occulus May 2013 #72
Check out Progressive Democrats of America and Democracy for America eridani May 2013 #61
The other party imploded and we're picking up the pieces Recursion May 2013 #62
They do... NCTraveler May 2013 #65
It began with Clinton. The anti-government propaganda worked. What it did was essentially Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #66
We began to put party over principal. Savannahmann May 2013 #73
You can easily realize how come the Democratic Faithful no longer has truedelphi May 2013 #76
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