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129. How do you get that, though?

Mon May 6, 2013, 10:21 PM

May 2013

First, to me, his reply was slightly incomprehensible. But when you start off by calling someone Wiley Coyote, I mean, are you really wanting to be taken seriously?

At any rate, no one really answered the Chicago aspect. All the gun laws anyone could want are in effect there, except for blanket confiscation. And the murder rate and gun violence are outrageous. Those are facts. That is reality.

So I posed, and still do, the question: are even stricter gun laws than we have now the answer to gun crime? If so, why isn't that tactic working in Chicago?

In light of that reality, is it so far-fetched to think that maybe more restrictive gun laws are not the answer?

I've been attacked personally here for having a minority view on gun control. Other Dems share this view. Other DUers share this view. But instead of discussing the issue in a reality-based manner, we get slings and arrows for deviating even slightly from the program.

Are we all to be simply led around on leashes, told what to say, think and do? And to attack anyone who disagrees?

Is that what this is here?

I don't accept that.

I don't think a vocal, nasty few who demand conformity speak for the greater DU community.

You've been here a while.

Tell me where I'm wrong here?

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LaPierre: 'How Many Bostonians Wish They Had A Gun Two Weeks Ago?' [View all] michigandem58 May 2013 OP

I don't know. But I'm glad they didn't. hunter May 2013 #1

Boston is a pretty antigun city Warpy May 2013 #77

Too many (if not most of them) are not sane enough. LiberalFighter May 2013 #99

Where I live, like Boston, we pay people to do that for us. No thanks, Wayne. freshwest May 2013 #2

Yeah Wayne, wouldn't it have been awesome to have a free for all gunfight after those bombs went off Electric Monk May 2013 #3

Yup. A target rich environment! Kill 'em all, let Gawd sort 'em out! freshwest May 2013 #106

I really have to check my thinking about this man and gun-lovers...my thoughts are evil. nt kelliekat44 May 2013 #157

yup - just shoot at unidentified bomb suspects, after the bombs went off markiv May 2013 #4

Valid question. I bet the answer is most of them. Skip Intro May 2013 #5

It turned out that Dzhokhar wasn't even armed, just running away and hiding, though Electric Monk May 2013 #8

Luckily it did turn out that way. Skip Intro May 2013 #11

I also have the right to tell you that it's a dumb thing to do, and increases the chances of your Electric Monk May 2013 #13

rofl Skip Intro May 2013 #14

I like cjeek dgg Electric Monk May 2013 #15

These intelligent conversations with you are quite invigorating. Skip Intro May 2013 #17

Actually, since you bring it up, 4 of the 5 I listed have since been shitcanned. Here's the latest. Electric Monk May 2013 #19

3 questions: Skip Intro May 2013 #23

Re-read this subthread. You're the one who started making it personal (post #14). Electric Monk May 2013 #31

good job BainsBane May 2013 #30

Oooooh, EarlG is the greatest! Reason given: freshwest May 2013 #108

You alerted your own thread about me, you shouldn't be criticizing anybody here. CreekDog May 2013 #148

Thank God I printed that epic before Meta shut down. Still good for a belly laugh. freshwest May 2013 #104

I wish I'd saved a copy :( It didn't occur to me that meta might be disappeared. nt Electric Monk May 2013 #105

It started the night of the Mayan Apocalypse and lasted 2 days. 321 posts. freshwest May 2013 #107

That is your idea of freedom? Guns? Walk away May 2013 #82

The problem is that too many people (would) make bad decisions that could harm others. LiberalFighter May 2013 #100

I'd re-frame the answer I'd been given into something complete different too LanternWaste May 2013 #120

My words come from me. No bumperstickers or talking points. Skip Intro May 2013 #133

Got a link to that 72%? rl6214 May 2013 #113

Here's where that quoted % came from, I think Electric Monk May 2013 #123

Yes they died wishing for guns... Pholus May 2013 #16

They probably did. Skip Intro May 2013 #22

Your support for billh58 May 2013 #32

What a big, unfounded, assertion there sparky! Pholus May 2013 #55

Was I supposed to drop acid before reading that? Skip Intro May 2013 #56

A jury voted 3-3 to Leave It Alone Sekhmets Daughter May 2013 #66

Thanks for the info. n/t Skip Intro May 2013 #70

That shouldn't have been alerted! Pholus May 2013 #75

Half the jury disagreed, and thought it should have been hidden, as did the alerter. nt Electric Monk May 2013 #112

they got owned datasuspect May 2013 #89

Whatever. You already lost. Pholus May 2013 #71

Ok, nite nite. n/t Skip Intro May 2013 #72

no, but you might want to shore up your arguments afterward 0rganism May 2013 #126

How do you get that, though? Skip Intro May 2013 #129

you're saying that gun laws are proven to work or not work based on one city which borders Indiana? CreekDog May 2013 #149

Traffic must be hell from Chicago to Indiana and back. Skip Intro May 2013 #151

If we applied Gun Lobby Logic™ to other issues.... Electric Monk May 2013 #58

Doesn't matter... Pelican May 2013 #62

Yeah, I've seen that one before. Skip Intro May 2013 #65

As is striking to me how many people defend the Right-wing PAC NRA yet lack the courage of their own LanternWaste May 2013 #121

You're a smooth smoothie, you know. Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #128

I think I'm really more like a shot of Whiskey. Skip Intro May 2013 #143

"with little room for bs and drama" like alerting on yourself while pretending to be someone else? Electric Monk May 2013 #144

Speaking of stalking... Skip Intro May 2013 #145

For correcting your assertion? What definition of "stalking" does that fall under? Electric Monk May 2013 #146

NRA all the way! Kingofalldems May 2013 #94

Did it ever dawn on billh58 May 2013 #36

All of those are smart measures. Skip Intro May 2013 #46

That response billh58 May 2013 #48

Do you still like cjeek dgg? RetroLounge May 2013 #37

So basically what you billh58 May 2013 #33

No, I'm saying what I just said. Why get insulting about it? Skip Intro May 2013 #42

And I'm saying that billh58 May 2013 #45

And what you just said is what billh58 said you said. 2ndAmForComputers May 2013 #124

No, that just is not factual. Skip Intro May 2013 #131

It's the logical conclusion of what you said. 2ndAmForComputers May 2013 #135

No, it isn't a logical conclusion at all. Skip Intro May 2013 #138

Let's get back to basics. 2ndAmForComputers May 2013 #139

I think it was and is a valid question. Skip Intro May 2013 #140

I came to the conclusion your worldview makes it impossible for you to see how so. 2ndAmForComputers May 2013 #141

Not much in way of explanation, but ok. Skip Intro May 2013 #142

So you are in agreement with whackjob LaPierre? RetroLounge May 2013 #39

When people make a valid point, I agree that it is a valid point. Skip Intro May 2013 #41

of course you do RetroLounge May 2013 #59

You're so meta. n/t Skip Intro May 2013 #60

You like Cleeqk dggg? RetroLounge May 2013 #61

As if to prove my point. Skip Intro May 2013 #64

The "childish mumblings" are paraphrasing your EPIC FAIL in meta that will never be forgotton. nt Electric Monk May 2013 #67

"childish mumblings" RetroLounge May 2013 #96

"I like cjeekdgg" were YOUR WORDS, which you wrote in an alert to the hosts CreekDog May 2013 #156

Par for the course for good old skippy Cali_Democrat May 2013 #63

+1000 RetroLounge May 2013 #95

Having lived in Boston, I'd say very few. Gormy Cuss May 2013 #43

I'd take that bet. You know what I bet they wished for more? cui bono May 2013 #44

Tag giants for what? rl6214 May 2013 #114

The fireworks. n/t cui bono May 2013 #122

There's over 600,000 people in the city of Boston Hippo_Tron May 2013 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl May 2013 #53

Do you enjoy having your wet dreams? Uzair May 2013 #73

Only in the head of a sick, twisted person. 2ndAmForComputers May 2013 #111

Only a sick, twisted unarmed Bostonian would wish Skip Intro May 2013 #130

You know what I was referring to. Not any hypothetical Bostonian. 2ndAmForComputers May 2013 #132

Just flat out BS. You are clearly talking about Bostonians. Skip Intro May 2013 #136

No. I was talking about Wayne LaPierre's sick and twisted implication about Bostonians. 2ndAmForComputers May 2013 #137

How about WillPitt? CreekDog May 2013 #147

No idea. Skip Intro May 2013 #150

because you ridicule us, our president and our values CreekDog May 2013 #152

Why do you do that? That isn't true. Skip Intro May 2013 #153

We aren't asking you to "agree on everything all the time", you disagree with us ALL THE TIME CreekDog May 2013 #161

Oh, you've determined I don't belong here, eh? Skip Intro May 2013 #163

kick nt Electric Monk May 2013 #164

Oh Poor Skip He Just Speaks His Mind HangOnKids May 2013 #159

I'd bet that more than a few of them DO have one or more guns in their homes. Bake May 2013 #158

looks like you're wrong CreekDog May 2013 #166

Here is my reply: OneGrassRoot May 2013 #6

Ohh, I'd never seen that before.. thanks, Cha May 2013 #26

Have you thought of making that an OP, OneGrassRoot? Seems like Cha May 2013 #27

I did a couple of weeks ago... OneGrassRoot May 2013 #90

Hey Wayne, Jamaal510 May 2013 #7

+1. Not dealing with the crime ridden part, but all the rest. freshwest May 2013 #109

How many do you suppose wished their *neighbors* were armed and Marr May 2013 #9

“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a pressure cooker is a good guy with a pressure cooker.” spanone May 2013 #10

I can think of two moondust May 2013 #12

The NRA: Proving once again how completely clueless they are. Initech May 2013 #18

Wow...he really is a vile slor May 2013 #20

Is gun ownership banned in Boston? nobodyspecial May 2013 #21

my B-I-L teaches CCW permit classes in the Boston area quaker bill May 2013 #88

Very easy to own a shotgun hack89 May 2013 #92

Again.. some idiot who wasn't there is attempting to speak Cha May 2013 #24

It is a valid point, but it's astonishingly rude and insensitive given what just happened. reformist2 May 2013 #25

Yeah Turbineguy May 2013 #28

Hey Wayne, ask the guy who was carjacked by the bombers if he wished he had a gun onenote May 2013 #29

And, Collins(?) who was killed when they couldn't get his gun out of the holster? Frustratedlady May 2013 #40

I'm not handy with a gun so I don't want one... dkf May 2013 #34

Where were you, Wayne, you f*cking coward. TheCowsCameHome May 2013 #35

Yeah I'm sure the SWAT teams would have Politicalboi May 2013 #38

Coming up next: Arming WTC janitors with handguns could have prevented 9/11! struggle4progress May 2013 #47

haha. I would like to see his response for that one.Anyway he can get it? SummerSnow May 2013 #86

Arming firemen turns them into freedom fighters! Runners can shoot their way to the finish line! freshwest May 2013 #117

How many Bostonians wish you would just shut the fuck up? Rex May 2013 #50

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey May 2013 #98

Violence begets violence liberal N proud May 2013 #51

Imagine how many brown people would have been shot at the race if the lunatics were armed. Reddit Pisces May 2013 #52

Completely agree etherealtruth May 2013 #102

Paraphrashing: Buzz Clik May 2013 #54

I think the poster is saying during the lock down when the media newmember May 2013 #74

Ah. So the asshole was attempting to prey on people's fears. Nice. Buzz Clik May 2013 #76

Him and the media but it was an intense situation , real or blown out of proportion, take your pick newmember May 2013 #78

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #79

Imagine how much longer the marathon would have been if all the runners were carrying a piece as freshwest May 2013 #118

He is an idiot Marrah_G May 2013 #57

HAhahahhaaaaa ! RagAss May 2013 #68

He's probably right in some degree newmember May 2013 #69

from what i hear most of Boston was not frightened, but they were trying to help law enforcement JI7 May 2013 #80

Like the MIT officer? Life Long Dem May 2013 #81

and how would the guns have stopped the attacks? samsingh May 2013 #83

How many people wish they had a gun every time this yahoo opens his pie-hole? n/t winter is coming May 2013 #84

None. We're Bruins fans. flvegan May 2013 #85

Because the best defense against a BOMB is a gun, right? 6000eliot May 2013 #87

Come on, you know he was talking about the manhunt after the bombs. rl6214 May 2013 #116

Oh, of course. 6000eliot May 2013 #134

Well the police sure weren't too proficient, it took the younger brother rl6214 May 2013 #154

Hopefully most of them had one already. ileus May 2013 #91

A bunch will get them, so the death toll from the bombings will climb. gulliver May 2013 #93

If people were not in danger then why did the POLICE shut down the WHOLE FUCKING CITY?? Of.... Logical May 2013 #97

Exactly. Thank You. n/t Skip Intro May 2013 #155

ok, name some Boston area DUers who said they wanted a gun b/c they didn't have one CreekDog May 2013 #162

seems like you don't know what you're talking about CreekDog May 2013 #165

only the cowards Skittles May 2013 #101

yeah they could have shot that Saudi guy Enrique May 2013 #103

How Many Bostonians Wish the bombers couldn't buy their guns Wayne? nt TeamPooka May 2013 #110

I would think anyone that wanted to own a gun already had one. rl6214 May 2013 #115

LaPierre's an out of touch idiot. It's more like "How many Bostonians wished there were one less..." Sheepshank May 2013 #119

Wha......? Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #125

Yeah, next time, shoot the bombs! Deep13 May 2013 #127

The guy who found the younger brother treestar May 2013 #160