Liberal or progressive?

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19. Agreed. Also let me add-A Harry Chapin liberal.Allard Lowenstein liberal.A Bob Graham liberal.

and for all they use his name,let me, A Paul Wellstone liberal.
Paul who had said many times- NO to third party run or support.
NO to tearing things down doing so without a clue to what one actually wanted and how to attain that goal.

The liberal understands "one did not build it" and "it takes a village".
and it takes votes from the other side.

Ralph Nader could have run for something himself like Senate or House like Al Franken did, and work, work, work
to better and attain his goal instead of taking the easy way out.
He could have asked Al Gore for a cabinet post and working within is NOT selling out, it is working to achieve a goal.

Someone said the other day in an article, then the progressives all leaped on it negatively-
why can't President Obama be like LBJ and get things passed.
Without seeming to know how he needed and got the republican votes, and had to bypass the George Wallace Dixiecrats(who most likely would be beloved by progressives today for standing up to authority or something inane like that)

btw, you said it perfect,I understood it immediately and I myself am the one that fumbles around.

and the words they throw around.
don't they realize FDR was as big an authoritarian as there was? Same with Jimmy Carter and same with anyone in elective office.
Sometimes words are just used that make no sense.

(they should listen to one of their idols in the entertainment field, George Carlin,
and apply the "Football vs. Baseball" bit he did to themselves, and to politics.

(and dare I say,when one gets right down to it-occupy is a very negative word a very war like NOT a peaceful word.
I don't believe a Harry Chapin would ever have used a word like that, nor would a Martin Sheen.) Nor is wearing masks, which connates a negative, as does not wishing to give a name.

Yesterday's liberals were all proud of their names and from the bottom up, all immediately thought about joining the elective office world and then working within.

makes no sense to me.
(and of course, they say I make no sense to them).
Opportunities wasted, because all it takes is a few protesters in every single district to run for office and a few to win to tilt the house.
But I guess that is too hard work.

Liberals understand that losses will happen and dust themselves off and get back in to it.

I am a Jerry Brown liberal. He is the perfect example.
He ran for the biggest office, but then he came back in some of the smallest ones and climbed back up.
Wanting to be part of the system from inside from working within.
And not tear it down from the outside.