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Dokkie

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42. how about if a man/woman is

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 05:22 PM

Feb 2012

playing rape fantasy with another person and they happen to forget the safe word. In that scenario he/she is definitely responsible for being the victim of rape. Never say never. This is why I hate absolute laws like in NY where a man is responsible for rape if he has sex with a minor. It doesn't matter if she showed him a state issued license stating that she is 18yrs plus. He is thrown to jail, no if ands or buts.

Laws like these are designed to entrap men and men only

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DU Poll on Attitudes toward Rape [View all] mistertrickster Feb 2012 OP

Let me be the first atreides1 Feb 2012 #1

I would say she isn't too intelligent about her well-being if she does 4, 5 and 6... rfranklin Feb 2012 #2

That wasn't the question . . . is she responsible? yes or no? mistertrickster Feb 2012 #4

I think there is a difference between "she deserved it" and she was tempting fate... rfranklin Feb 2012 #8

it is a testiment to the way somw men think that any time a woman acts roguevalley Feb 2012 #88

I too vote NO. for the record. nt mistertrickster Feb 2012 #3

No. Brickbat Feb 2012 #5

NO.... the one responsible is the rapist. hlthe2b Feb 2012 #6

No. Cleita Feb 2012 #7

Yes if you agree with ANY, No if u disagree with all? wierd poll methodology nt msongs Feb 2012 #9

I agree, but it was the best way I could think of to try mistertrickster Feb 2012 #10

If she says "No" or "Stop" etc at any time and he continues - it's rape. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2012 #11

Men don't have BRAINS and cannot control themselves? HockeyMom Feb 2012 #12

I'll count that as NO. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #15

FUCK NO, in every example! 11 Bravo Feb 2012 #13

No (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #14

A woman is never responsible for "forced, unwanted sex against her will." Scuba Feb 2012 #16

^ this. nt cyberswede Feb 2012 #17

You're agreeing with ^ this? mistertrickster Feb 2012 #24

No to 1 and 2 Dokkie Feb 2012 #18

Right. I think that's where the controversy comes in. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #22

On the other hand we are talking about Dokkie Feb 2012 #25

I wish 99.99999% of men had that much control over themselves. Lunacee2012 Feb 2012 #85

No victim is ever responsible for "forced, unwanted sex against" their will. Solly Mack Feb 2012 #19

No, but 3-5 are not intelligent ways to proceed hifiguy Feb 2012 #20

And yet none of those examples are the same as giving consent. Chorophyll Feb 2012 #37

I agree completely. It isn't consent. hifiguy Feb 2012 #41

I know people who have been mugged WITHOUT being drunk or carrying lots of money. Chorophyll Feb 2012 #49

On that we agree completely. hifiguy Feb 2012 #57

No. eom tledford Feb 2012 #21

no qb Feb 2012 #23

No Nikia Feb 2012 #26

I did not even get to the starred statements... Ohio Joe Feb 2012 #27

None of the above JHB Feb 2012 #28

NO. Chorophyll Feb 2012 #29

I used that wording because the original study mistertrickster Feb 2012 #31

Eek! Tell ya what, Chorophyll Feb 2012 #34

I know the feeling! mistertrickster Feb 2012 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author likesmountains 52 Feb 2012 #30

Check out this poster from Stop Rape UK. Kind of explains who is responsible for rape likesmountains 52 Feb 2012 #32

This kinda steamed me off when I first saw it mistertrickster Feb 2012 #43

No kenfrequed Feb 2012 #33

how about if a man/woman is Dokkie Feb 2012 #42

Uhm... kenfrequed Feb 2012 #60

No StopTheNeoCons Feb 2012 #35

Here's the original survey results and link-- mistertrickster Feb 2012 #36

WTF? Ohio Joe Feb 2012 #46

That was in the original study mistertrickster Feb 2012 #48

The link is from the study, I get that... It is your words I question... Ohio Joe Feb 2012 #51

Okay, right. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #55

OK, sorry, I mis-understood Ohio Joe Feb 2012 #56

No, you were right. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #59

I wish you would have asked Dokkie Feb 2012 #50

Surprisingly, in the original study, women blamed the victim mistertrickster Feb 2012 #52

No and furthermore OriginalGeek Feb 2012 #39

Non-consensual sex is rape.... Spazito Feb 2012 #40

Yup, I totally agree with that actually. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #45

None of the above. lapislzi Feb 2012 #44

No n/t malaise Feb 2012 #47

No. UrbScotty Feb 2012 #53

NO Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #54

That would be a NO. geardaddy Feb 2012 #58

No to all of it Muskypundit Feb 2012 #61

Right . . . I wonder how much of this mistertrickster Feb 2012 #62

There's no excuse for rape MrScorpio Feb 2012 #63

No (nt) bigwillq Feb 2012 #64

No, no, no, a thousand times no! n/t RebelOne Feb 2012 #65

An easy and obvious no - by definition, not by judgment. saras Feb 2012 #66

flamebait. provis99 Feb 2012 #67

That wasn't my intention, and after 60 posts mistertrickster Feb 2012 #68

NO Vincardog Feb 2012 #69

No. LeftishBrit Feb 2012 #70

What the hell?!? NO curlyred Feb 2012 #71

NO Snarkoleptic Feb 2012 #72

"A woman is responsible for forced, unwanted sex against her will if"... NO LadyHawkAZ Feb 2012 #73

None of them Prophet 451 Feb 2012 #74

No libodem Feb 2012 #75

No, no, and HELL NO. n/t Withywindle Feb 2012 #76

No to all of the above. n/t TriMera Feb 2012 #77

I'm against it Boombaby Feb 2012 #78

No..never RESPONSIBLE under those circumstances but...(I may get creamed for this) DuaneBidoux Feb 2012 #79

Definitely No on 1 & 2 WhoIsNumberNone Feb 2012 #80

WTH? BAD "poll" question! NashvilleLefty Feb 2012 #81

The questionable wisdom of my mother lapislzi Feb 2012 #89

No. Son of Gob Feb 2012 #82

I vote no. But having said that, obvioulsy a woman should not be getting so drunk that she passes totodeinhere Feb 2012 #83

No! A woman is never at fault if she is raped. EVER. nt Lunacee2012 Feb 2012 #84

No nyet nay nein! Zalatix Feb 2012 #86

No. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #87

NO varelse Feb 2012 #90