Liberal or progressive?

[zipplewrath]

85. A country mile between the two

"I simply don't want the progressive movement to turn into the left's tea party. "

There is a long way to go from where we are to any correlation between the tea party and the current progressive movement, such as it is.

And it was nice of you to ignore all my points, but address some impression you got from a conference I didn't attend.

But I have to admit, I'm not sure how a progressive caucuse can be considered on some sort of "purity" campaign by merely confronting a member of their caucus for not suppporting the aims of the caucus. Aims by the way that you claim the member agreed. It's that kind of "my way or no way" that the blue dogs bring to the party. The caucus I presume collectively came upon a position and strategy, one this member decided not to support. Imagine a caucus saying "oh well, what the heck". Kinda defeats the whole purpose of a caucus now doesn't it? A caucus isn't suppose to be a bunch of individuals seeing if they accidentally agree on something from time to time. They're suppose to coordinate. Sounds like the member wanted to be progressive in name, but not fact. That just undermines the caucus.

The progressives had to vote for ACA despite their objections to huge portions of the bill. The Blue Dogs sided with the republicans over a few aspects that didn't pass their purity tests. Heck, when you realize how much CAME from the blue dogs, not to mention moderate republicans of the past, it's hard to figure out exactly what their problem was, except that they weren't in charge.