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rhett o rick

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92. Well written post. I agree with most of what you said, however

Wed May 8, 2013, 12:39 PM

May 2013

we are in a class war and losing badly. I personally believe we passed the point of no return. "You say there are better ways", I would change that to "there should be better ways". If there are better ways I sure dont see them. And we've been told that for decades, "Dont look behind the curtain without permission (which is never granted)".

Our government is totally out of control as revealed by these leaks. The leaks are not a method of fixing a problem but a way to expose them like all whistle-blowing. Punishing Manning as a martyr is only intended as terror. OUR government, instead of fixing the transparency problem want to terrorize citizens into not looking behind the curtain.

We, the 99%, are losing more and more power every day with no fix in sight. Some HOPEd that Barack Obama would stand with the 99% but he is choosing the other side.

Nothing is ever "black or white" but when someone is trying to kill you, it's pretty damn close. "The Elite Overlords dont want to kill us, but if we get in their way of more profits and power and get killed, they wont care."

The Revolution is waiting.

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I fear for Julian Assange. I fear for Bradley Manning. I fear for us all. [View all] kpete May 2013 OP

du rec. nt xchrom May 2013 #1

Kick, Rec. n/t Smarmie Doofus May 2013 #2

The pestilence of corporate totalitarianism is spreading rapidly over the earth. progressoid May 2013 #3

+1 snagglepuss May 2013 #14

Every right-wing initiative feeds the pestilence of corporate indepat May 2013 #48

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" davidn3600 May 2013 #4

And we are on their list... ReRe May 2013 #6

Reminds me of another quote demwing May 2013 #7

And there you have why the Liberal Arts are being destroyed in schools by bureaucrats. WinkyDink May 2013 #5

Yes, can't have the little beggars learning to THINK about things that don't have Lydia Leftcoast May 2013 #45

+1 tex-wyo-dem May 2013 #58

George Orwell was just off by a few decades! Dustlawyer May 2013 #8

The worshippers will do quite well. K & R L0oniX May 2013 #9

Even as the NRA, insane celebrities and politicians, and local sheriffs speak treason and sedition, mountain grammy May 2013 #10

I award this piece of writing ... frazzled May 2013 #11

No shit railsback May 2013 #61

Some of your words could be translated into German defacto7 May 2013 #78

+1!!! nt MADem May 2013 #79

Oh for cripes sake agent46 May 2013 #81

Funny, because I find the devotion to this type of ... frazzled May 2013 #87

yeah, I guess it is kind of sexy agent46 May 2013 #93

Chris Hedges has always been prone to hyperbole... judy May 2013 #12

It's possible that Hedges is prone to hyperbole on account of the fact that truedelphi May 2013 #21

Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee. JDPriestly May 2013 #13

I had the most visceral reaction of disgust libodem May 2013 #15

I've always wondered why Manning/Assange are persecuted and yet Cheney/Novak walk(s,ed) free KansDem May 2013 #16

Hedges has put into words what most of us already know.... KauaiK May 2013 #17

I don't know. When Corporations control the media, when they control truedelphi May 2013 #20

Do what Julian did. Run and hide in Ecuador. randome May 2013 #30

DURec for Assange, Manning, Wikileaks, and ALL Whistleblowers. bvar22 May 2013 #18

K&R the WWW is a double edged sword for the elite usGovOwesUs3Trillion May 2013 #19

"the WWW is a double edged sword for the elite" tex-wyo-dem May 2013 #60

Julian Assange - the only probable rapist it's fashionable to admire. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #22

"probable rapist" whatchamacallit May 2013 #23

What's wrong with persecuting rapists? N.T. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #24

I missed the parts whatchamacallit May 2013 #25

You also missed the part where he skipped bail to avoid facing Swedish authorities. randome May 2013 #26

Yeah rand ome whatchamacallit May 2013 #28

yeah, a lot of agenda minded folks miss those details usGovOwesUs3Trillion May 2013 #63

Please tell my you're joking? Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #27

Charge and convict him of what exactly? whatchamacallit May 2013 #29

Of having sex with people without their consent - i.e. rape. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #38

An idiotic assertion whatchamacallit May 2013 #40

Have you ever actually looked at the three charges against him? hack89 May 2013 #90

I agree. Dont you just hate whistle-blowers. They make things so messy. rhett o rick May 2013 #52

Manning was not a whistleblower. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #68

Exposing war crimes is not a crime. grahamhgreen May 2013 #70

Releasing classified documents is a crime. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #74

Not when it exposes a war crime. nt grahamhgreen May 2013 #75

Are you referring to "Collateral Murder?" Pelican May 2013 #82

And rationalization is the key to happiness. rhett o rick May 2013 #86

You're taking the simple way out on transparency: "It's us v. them", and "them" is bad. toby jo May 2013 #91

Well written post. I agree with most of what you said, however rhett o rick May 2013 #92

please, link to the official charges against him. Oh, there aren't any you say? Interesting... usGovOwesUs3Trillion May 2013 #64

That's utterly contemptible. Go look up how the Swedish legal system works. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #69

Yep ~ "The pestilence of corporate totalitarianism is spreading rapidly over the earth"... Zorra May 2013 #32

Indeed whatchamacallit May 2013 #33

The word you were fumbling for was 'Alleged'. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #34

That too, but also "probably guilty". Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #35

Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat AtheistCrusader May 2013 #36

You do know that's a principle specific to courts of law, not to general life, don't you? Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #37

He could very easily be tried in absentia. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #39

That's the position that you need to adopt to make the status quo seem acceptable. sibelian May 2013 #85

Swedish law is very different from that of other countries when it comes to rape. mn9driver May 2013 #42

Oh, another pathetic Ad Hominem attack: grahamhgreen May 2013 #71

What are you blathering about? Assange has not made any claims I am disputing. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #73

Your attacking his character not his arguments. Ad Hominem grahamhgreen May 2013 #76

No, ad hominem is attacking character as a means of attacking arguments. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #77

Wow, that paragraph expresses my feelings so perfectly. Thanks. nt Zorra May 2013 #31

Don't forget the Walkers! whistler162 May 2013 #41

fear rso May 2013 #43

Why do you think that Wikileaks did not consider the impact on people's lives? Where did you sabrina 1 May 2013 #57

Must read! grahamhgreen May 2013 #72

Assange rso May 2013 #84

A talking point. I did ask where you got it from but you didn't say. Headline grabber, okay here sabrina 1 May 2013 #89

Assange rso May 2013 #95

'Talking points' is a talking point for some. randome May 2013 #96

assange rso May 2013 #97

Chris Hedges is a treasure. JEB May 2013 #44

Not well thought out... Half-Century Man May 2013 #46

That is interesting that they would allow... tex-wyo-dem May 2013 #65

I'm terrified that the realization event.... Half-Century Man May 2013 #66

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT May 2013 #47

Chris Hedges is just a chronic whiner 99th_Monkey May 2013 #49

Wait a minute. Is that sarcastic sarcasm? Or ironic, sarcastic sarcasm? randome May 2013 #51

LOL n/t 99th_Monkey May 2013 #55

The BEST real journalist in Amerika today. Fuddnik May 2013 #54

It was fun 99th_Monkey May 2013 #59

The POLICE STATE cometh. blkmusclmachine May 2013 #50

The Revolution is waiting. nm rhett o rick May 2013 #53

The POLICE STATE be hereth. Fuddnik May 2013 #56

Must be terrible to live in perpetual fear. sagat May 2013 #62

k and r for Hedges, Assange and Manning. bbgrunt May 2013 #67

It seems a few here think the times have changed. defacto7 May 2013 #80

Assange is reportedly worth �1.3 million and lives in a Knightsbridge embassy ucrdem May 2013 #83

He SHOULD be worth much, much more for the excellent contributions he has made to the sabrina 1 May 2013 #88

K&R woo me with science May 2013 #94