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24. No, just have, you know, like facts that support your claims.

Wed May 8, 2013, 12:32 PM

May 2013

If you're going to blame the Boston bombings on US foreign policy, you ought to be able to show how US foreign policy took two harmless pot smoking guys and turned them into killers.

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If you're wondering what could possibly motivate people like Dzokhar Tsarnaev [View all] wtmusic May 2013 OP

I don't wonder at all. Faux pas May 2013 #1

What country struck at us in the Boston bombings? nt geek tragedy May 2013 #33

Oh! Oh! I know this one! Kyrgyzstan! And they hate us for our freedoms! randome May 2013 #48

Close, the answer was the Czech Republic and they were upset geek tragedy May 2013 #50

You are joking right? dballance May 2013 #52

New Rule: The U.S. is not allowed to invade another country until a majority of Americans.... Yavin4 May 2013 #54

Yes, very much joking. nt geek tragedy May 2013 #55

Jeremy Scahill Newest Reality May 2013 #2

Those two brothers were in no way, shape or form victims of US foreign policy. geek tragedy May 2013 #11

And those Libyans rushing to Syria to fight are in no way victims of Assad's oppression. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #34

The argument of Libyans rushing to Syria proves too much, from your point of view. geek tragedy May 2013 #38

It would have made more sense for them to attack the Russians. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #46

the religious stuff started when their mother became a fundyclown. geek tragedy May 2013 #49

+++1,000. nt kelliekat44 May 2013 #64

In addition, OBL told the world the reasons for WTC yet few nation leaders would believe him OR kelliekat44 May 2013 #67

Why should the world have respected bin Laden's 'assertions?' nt geek tragedy May 2013 #74

Why would you believe Osama Bin Laden? You know, Ted Bundy claimed that he msanthrope May 2013 #78

So it actually turns out though... Bonobo May 2013 #122

They were so outraged that they didn't mention it until after they killed people. geek tragedy May 2013 #130

Ah, I see that now you believe you have developed your own psychic powers. nt Bonobo May 2013 #132

There is no excuse for what he did treestar May 2013 #3

I agree and I really doubt the US actions abroad motivated him at all n/t OKNancy May 2013 #4

You believe US actions abroad against Muslims have been fairly even-handed, do you? nt wtmusic May 2013 #6

Are you really incapable of distinguishing between geek tragedy May 2013 #18

That is not what I wrote or implied OKNancy May 2013 #86

Sure! Just ask the Iranians how even handed the US (and British) gateley May 2013 #114

Early releases from the FBI point to yes nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #41

Why would you believe a murderer is truthful? Do you think someone who places a bomb behind an 8 msanthrope May 2013 #80

It would be a motive, wouldn't it. wtmusic May 2013 #101

You believe a murdering sack of shit would tell you the truth? Sociopaths always have brave and msanthrope May 2013 #103

You tell me. Why did he do it? nt wtmusic May 2013 #107

I don't waste my time on the motivations of sociopaths. msanthrope May 2013 #111

I have no doubt he'll be convicted wtmusic May 2013 #112

There is no placating the sociopath. If these monsters didn't have 'the drones', they'd pick some msanthrope May 2013 #113

That is true sometimes. wtmusic May 2013 #116

Wow. Just wow. nt msanthrope May 2013 #119

I'm taking from that comment that you believe all people who murder wtmusic May 2013 #120

I think you spend waaaaay to much time assuming what goes on in other people's heads. nt msanthrope May 2013 #128

When you can't answer a simple question wtmusic May 2013 #129

Not can't, won't. You've taken a Bush torture apologist, Davy Berkowitz, Jeffrey Dahmer msanthrope May 2013 #145

"...suggesting the brothers were motivated by an anti-American, radical version of Islam." randome May 2013 #92

As opposed to the anti-Muslim, radical-version-of-Christianity extremists in the CIA? wtmusic May 2013 #100

I doubt the CIA is any more infiltrated by Christian fundamentalists than any other organization. randome May 2013 #115

IMO most Muslims, radicalized or not wtmusic May 2013 #117

Sympathy is not the same as understanding wtmusic May 2013 #10

How do you KNOW that US foreign policy was a motive rather than geek tragedy May 2013 #12

Read the book wtmusic May 2013 #14

What book has been written about why the Tsarnaev's decided geek tragedy May 2013 #17

The book came out months before the bombing wtmusic May 2013 #19

So the book says nothing about what motivated the Tsarnaevs. geek tragedy May 2013 #20

I can understand Charles' Manson's motives treestar May 2013 #56

We have brought it on ourselves. wtmusic May 2013 #105

No, we did not bring it on ourselves treestar May 2013 #106

Listen to yourself. wtmusic May 2013 #108

Wasn't Iraq after 911? treestar May 2013 #109

Now we're getting somewhere. wtmusic May 2013 #110

Blowback. nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #136

Motivation in any crime matters to both lawyers nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #40

+1 wtmusic May 2013 #102

Or, he thought it was a cool thing to do jberryhill May 2013 #5

Straw man, but whatever. wtmusic May 2013 #7

Did you interview either brother or even meet them? geek tragedy May 2013 #9

A little reading helps. wtmusic May 2013 #13

Amazingly, the 2013 story you linked to doesn't mention US foreign policy. geek tragedy May 2013 #16

Yeah, I guess you'll have to read a little more. wtmusic May 2013 #21

No, just have, you know, like facts that support your claims. geek tragedy May 2013 #24

"Education" is not synonymous with everything you personally have read treestar May 2013 #68

Straw man? jberryhill May 2013 #25

"a completely normal response" nt wtmusic May 2013 #28

Oh look someone trying to exploit the bombings for their own political agenda. geek tragedy May 2013 #8

We exploit our political agenda with drones. wtmusic May 2013 #15

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what does the book motivate you to do? snooper2 May 2013 #22

It motivates me to try to get other people to read it wtmusic May 2013 #23

Good, just checking...long as it has you just playing on the Intertubes snooper2 May 2013 #26

^^ Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #30

Fear sucks. wtmusic May 2013 #36

where is your home? snooper2 May 2013 #37

Next door. wtmusic May 2013 #39

I didn't know your name was Susan... snooper2 May 2013 #43

You wouldn't know. MineralMan May 2013 #44

Another expert who hasn't read the book. wtmusic May 2013 #99

From what we know, the Tsarnaev brothers never had drones hovering over their heads 24/7 Turborama May 2013 #60

So why is your reaction to not bomb innocent people like the Tsarnaevs did? geek tragedy May 2013 #32

Silly you. There is absolutely no relation between US foreign policy and people attacking us. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #27

Got it. wtmusic May 2013 #29

Empty snark is not a substitute for an actual factual argument. geek tragedy May 2013 #31

See my post #34 above. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #35

Wait, you're serious? RedCappedBandit May 2013 #126

Hmm...no. MineralMan May 2013 #42

Tsarnaev was just "speaking out against the US" until he bombed us. dkf May 2013 #45

Two things Savannahmann May 2013 #47

Yeah, I guess that explains all of the attacks on Canada dreamnightwind May 2013 #58

In this case Savannahmann May 2013 #62

Ignoring the direct and indirect effects of blowback dreamnightwind May 2013 #85

I miss UNREC. zappaman May 2013 #51

Exactly. Bring back the unrec. FSogol May 2013 #65

Oh for fucks sakes drones have nothing to do with it. Solomon May 2013 #53

Not to mention, they do a hell of a lot more killing among themselves than drones ever did. randome May 2013 #59

YOu have no clue what motivates asshats. They can say whatever they want snagglepuss May 2013 #57

LOL!!! WE took them IN when they needed ASYLUM from ANOTHER country. DevonRex May 2013 #61

+1. Also, Isn't the author of that book a big proponent of Bush's torture program? FSogol May 2013 #63

Yes, the very same. I posted a separate reply on that below. Yep he's pro torture. nt DevonRex May 2013 #72

That is interesting. nt RedCappedBandit May 2013 #131

Wow. randome May 2013 #69

Excellent rant. treestar May 2013 #70

Posts like this WilliamPitt May 2013 #76

Come back. nt msanthrope May 2013 #82

Thanks Will. DevonRex May 2013 #83

Welcome back... trumad May 2013 #90

Thank you, Devon! Thanks for the actual reality of the Boston Bombings. Cha May 2013 #79

That book was written by a Bush torture apologist, too. DevonRex May 2013 #84

What a stupid prick. Cha May 2013 #87

Thank you. nt msanthrope May 2013 #81

LOL spare me the open arms bullshit. wtmusic May 2013 #98

You prefer the Bush ass-kisser journalist's opinion? So be it. DevonRex May 2013 #121

Poison that well, baby. Go for it. wtmusic May 2013 #124

You say a lot of bad stuff about Americans. Odd that. nt DevonRex May 2013 #133

I think it would be very hard to get into the mind of someone who kills innocent people. hrmjustin May 2013 #66

"Winners & Sinners: from Mary Murphy to Mark Mazzetti" DevonRex May 2013 #71

+1. Excuses for W while bashing Obama. FSogol May 2013 #73

Yes. Not the kind of man I would take any advice from. Damn Bush worshiper. DevonRex May 2013 #75

as i see the family of the bomber having lots of problems getting a grave dembotoz May 2013 #77

WTF??? "the arguments of no justification start to ring more hollow" ?????? DevonRex May 2013 #97

is there any evidence these guys had issues with our foreign policy or any political matters ? JI7 May 2013 #88

Yup, see 41 nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #89

that isn't evidence of anything , it's his excuse after he got caught JI7 May 2013 #93

So the FBI is making it up nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #94

no, i'm saying that doesn't count as evidence they had issues with foreign policy JI7 May 2013 #96

And you know this how? nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #104

so what ? none of that shows he gave a shit about foreign policy JI7 May 2013 #118

You have more patience DevonRex May 2013 #127

it's a need to view everything as supporting your own beliefs JI7 May 2013 #139

Yeah. DevonRex May 2013 #140

Have a good life in fantasy land nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #135

i'm sure you know a lot about fantasy land, the FBI provided no evidence JI7 May 2013 #138

There probably isn't a single DUer who doesn't have issues with our foreign policy. randome May 2013 #91

true, but i don't think these guys cared anything about our foreign policy or anything political JI7 May 2013 #95

I always hate reading this threads. RedCappedBandit May 2013 #123

Thank you. wtmusic May 2013 #134

We might as well discuss Jeffrey Dahmer's motives. Let's understand him. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #137

Sure, there are clearly sociopaths out there RedCappedBandit May 2013 #141

That's what I believe, anyway. Do some have high moral causes? Honeycombe8 May 2013 #146

they talked ipods, girls etc when they were in the car with the cab driver hostage JI7 May 2013 #142

The issue is not limited to this specific tragedy. RedCappedBandit May 2013 #143

Or they could be a pair of jerkasses Scootaloo May 2013 #144