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niyad

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44. this from The Nation about this case (you are correct, it has NOTHING to do with the victim)
Wed May 8, 2013, 09:29 PM
May 2013




On April 16, PBS broadcast The Central Park Five, a film by Ken Burns, Sarah Burns and David McMahon. The documentary, based on Sarah’s book of the same name, reviews the hysteria that accompanied the 1990 trial of five young men accused of raping and beating Trisha Meili as she was jogging. Those young men—Yusef Salaam, Raymond Santana, Antron McCray, Korey Wise and Kevin Richardson—were exonerated in 2002 when convicted murderer Matias Reyes confessed, and his DNA was found to match the evidence from Meili’s rape and a string of other unsolved rapes in or near the park.



I sat in on the trial and have written in these pages about my concern that there was no evidence linking the defendants to the crime (“Reasons for Doubt,” December 12, 2002). The footprints and semen didn’t match; there was no blood or mud on the defendants’ clothing; their supposed confessions were factually wrong; and one police officer testified that the wording in three of the written confessions was his own. A forensic expert testified that the hair samples were “more consistent” with Caucasian than African-American hair, but the prosecution successfully argued that this meant they were not inconsistent. Even after their exoneration, prosecutor Linda Fairstein maintained that the young men had to have been responsible for a number of other park muggings that night, but the timeline does not add up, and none of the victims of those muggings were able to conclusively identify any of the defendants. Finally, no less than Bob Herbert called the victim “the single most effective and sympathetic witness I have ever seen.” Sympathetic she surely was. Except that she didn’t “witness” anything related to the defendants; her injuries were so severe she could remember nothing about the attack.

If ever there was a cautionary tale about why our system presumes innocence, this was it. Yet as Herbert has reflected, in 1990 New Yorkers, including himself, “wanted them to be guilty. And when a desire is strong enough it can overwhelm such flimsy stuff as facts and truth. Reality is a funny thing. It is what we say it is.” Alas, that’s not the definition of reality: it’s the definition of a lie, imposed violently, carelessly, with the full power of the state. So what is the takeaway from the ruined lives of five young men?

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http://www.thenation.com/article/173910/lessons-central-park-five#

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a very important point in the article: niyad May 2013 #1
personally, while I hate when someone is raped zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #7
welcome to DU niyad May 2013 #8
Did you miss this part? redqueen May 2013 #9
and then, of course, we have the problem of da's who arbitrarily decide that a victim's claims are niyad May 2013 #12
Yep. Many are only too happy to count those cases as 'false allegations' to push their propaganda. redqueen May 2013 #13
Out of curiosity... Orrex May 2013 #23
no doubt there is a mix of the two, but more often, I think, simply the da's unwillingness to niyad May 2013 #31
"some cases" zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #18
lol, yeah, I know what "some" means. Thanks, though. redqueen May 2013 #22
looks like someone needs to change their socks, eh? niyad May 2013 #38
Hahaha... YEP! nt redqueen May 2013 #54
that's not what the article says though. try again? bettyellen May 2013 #11
look above zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #19
Golly! Orrex May 2013 #21
what did I post that was incorrect? zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #27
Golly! Orrex May 2013 #30
spamming that zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #34
Golly! Orrex May 2013 #48
. Squinch May 2013 #51
you keep referring to the central park 5, which has NOTHING to do with false allegations of rape. niyad May 2013 #32
yes it does zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #33
keep trying. the study, and the issue, is about the number of false CLAIMS of rape. it is NOT niyad May 2013 #37
these guys might zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #41
keep trying, sweetie. the study was about the very low incidence of false CLAIMS of rape. niyad May 2013 #42
He is trying to derail by focusing on an entirely separate issue. redqueen May 2013 #50
and, a tactic to which they think we are completely oblivious. they are so cute sometimes, aren't niyad May 2013 #52
LOL... redqueen May 2013 #53
"There is a difference between a person supposedly falsely claiming rape, nomorenomore08 May 2013 #36
this from The Nation about this case (you are correct, it has NOTHING to do with the victim) niyad May 2013 #44
But of course, someone other than the cops/prosecutors/judge HAS to be blamed, right? nomorenomore08 May 2013 #46
you are correct. niyad May 2013 #47
That was the police's doing BainsBane May 2013 #43
Some person, somewhere Aerows May 2013 #60
. . . . niyad May 2013 #2
. . . niyad May 2013 #3
Oceanographic study shows water is wet Recursion May 2013 #4
yes, we know this, but there are those who insist that false claims are epidemic. sometimes niyad May 2013 #5
Lots of people who think they're swimming in the sand, then. geek tragedy May 2013 #6
I hope it's not lots. redqueen May 2013 #10
Why do people want to believe there are a lot of false accusations of rape? el_bryanto May 2013 #14
or maybe because admitting just how many victims of rape there are would be admitting just niyad May 2013 #15
I suppose that's possible as well el_bryanto May 2013 #16
sorry, not going there with you. nice try, though niyad May 2013 #35
Those who overtly despise women? A minority, though not a tiny one. nomorenomore08 May 2013 #39
Many DUers seem to believe that the rape allegations against Julian Assange are false. Nye Bevan May 2013 #17
While I dont think the allegations against Assange are false, using these stats this way stevenleser May 2013 #25
That's terrible statistics Shivering Jemmy May 2013 #55
I'm sure that lots of women file false accusations of rape Orrex May 2013 #20
What woman wouldn't want to have every choice she'd made scrutinized with the intent to blame her? redqueen May 2013 #24
And that's just the defense/perp side. geek tragedy May 2013 #28
Spraking of rape kits... i wonder how much of that backlog in untested ones is still waiting. redqueen May 2013 #29
I know I wish I were a woman so I could make a false rape allegation mythology May 2013 #45
The pressure to recant when the accused is a family member is frequently overwhelming. Shrike47 May 2013 #26
They just don't want to believe. Sad and appalling, but not terribly surprising. nomorenomore08 May 2013 #40
. . . niyad May 2013 #49
I wonder if the incidence of lying about rape Shivering Jemmy May 2013 #56
if you are correct (and I seem to remember some data to that effect) you are right, it is even niyad May 2013 #57
. . . niyad May 2013 #58
This is an appallingly shoddy piece of journalism - they're conflating "disproved" with "false". Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #59
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