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Scootaloo

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144. Or they could be a pair of jerkasses

Wed May 8, 2013, 11:51 PM

May 2013

One, a depressed sociopath, and the other the brother who follows him everywhere like a puppy.

Really, sometimes it is just so simple as "they wanted to be complete assholes," folks. I see people trying to tie this to some civilizational conflict, or some culture-clash issue, or "they hate us," or "we hate them," some shit like that.

Sadly for speculation on the internet though, not everything has a deeper meaning. Sometimes it actually is exactly what it says on the tin.

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If you're wondering what could possibly motivate people like Dzokhar Tsarnaev [View all] wtmusic May 2013 OP

I don't wonder at all. Faux pas May 2013 #1

What country struck at us in the Boston bombings? nt geek tragedy May 2013 #33

Oh! Oh! I know this one! Kyrgyzstan! And they hate us for our freedoms! randome May 2013 #48

Close, the answer was the Czech Republic and they were upset geek tragedy May 2013 #50

You are joking right? dballance May 2013 #52

New Rule: The U.S. is not allowed to invade another country until a majority of Americans.... Yavin4 May 2013 #54

Yes, very much joking. nt geek tragedy May 2013 #55

Jeremy Scahill Newest Reality May 2013 #2

Those two brothers were in no way, shape or form victims of US foreign policy. geek tragedy May 2013 #11

And those Libyans rushing to Syria to fight are in no way victims of Assad's oppression. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #34

The argument of Libyans rushing to Syria proves too much, from your point of view. geek tragedy May 2013 #38

It would have made more sense for them to attack the Russians. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #46

the religious stuff started when their mother became a fundyclown. geek tragedy May 2013 #49

+++1,000. nt kelliekat44 May 2013 #64

In addition, OBL told the world the reasons for WTC yet few nation leaders would believe him OR kelliekat44 May 2013 #67

Why should the world have respected bin Laden's 'assertions?' nt geek tragedy May 2013 #74

Why would you believe Osama Bin Laden? You know, Ted Bundy claimed that he msanthrope May 2013 #78

So it actually turns out though... Bonobo May 2013 #122

They were so outraged that they didn't mention it until after they killed people. geek tragedy May 2013 #130

Ah, I see that now you believe you have developed your own psychic powers. nt Bonobo May 2013 #132

There is no excuse for what he did treestar May 2013 #3

I agree and I really doubt the US actions abroad motivated him at all n/t OKNancy May 2013 #4

You believe US actions abroad against Muslims have been fairly even-handed, do you? nt wtmusic May 2013 #6

Are you really incapable of distinguishing between geek tragedy May 2013 #18

That is not what I wrote or implied OKNancy May 2013 #86

Sure! Just ask the Iranians how even handed the US (and British) gateley May 2013 #114

Early releases from the FBI point to yes nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #41

Why would you believe a murderer is truthful? Do you think someone who places a bomb behind an 8 msanthrope May 2013 #80

It would be a motive, wouldn't it. wtmusic May 2013 #101

You believe a murdering sack of shit would tell you the truth? Sociopaths always have brave and msanthrope May 2013 #103

You tell me. Why did he do it? nt wtmusic May 2013 #107

I don't waste my time on the motivations of sociopaths. msanthrope May 2013 #111

I have no doubt he'll be convicted wtmusic May 2013 #112

There is no placating the sociopath. If these monsters didn't have 'the drones', they'd pick some msanthrope May 2013 #113

That is true sometimes. wtmusic May 2013 #116

Wow. Just wow. nt msanthrope May 2013 #119

I'm taking from that comment that you believe all people who murder wtmusic May 2013 #120

I think you spend waaaaay to much time assuming what goes on in other people's heads. nt msanthrope May 2013 #128

When you can't answer a simple question wtmusic May 2013 #129

Not can't, won't. You've taken a Bush torture apologist, Davy Berkowitz, Jeffrey Dahmer msanthrope May 2013 #145

"...suggesting the brothers were motivated by an anti-American, radical version of Islam." randome May 2013 #92

As opposed to the anti-Muslim, radical-version-of-Christianity extremists in the CIA? wtmusic May 2013 #100

I doubt the CIA is any more infiltrated by Christian fundamentalists than any other organization. randome May 2013 #115

IMO most Muslims, radicalized or not wtmusic May 2013 #117

Sympathy is not the same as understanding wtmusic May 2013 #10

How do you KNOW that US foreign policy was a motive rather than geek tragedy May 2013 #12

Read the book wtmusic May 2013 #14

What book has been written about why the Tsarnaev's decided geek tragedy May 2013 #17

The book came out months before the bombing wtmusic May 2013 #19

So the book says nothing about what motivated the Tsarnaevs. geek tragedy May 2013 #20

I can understand Charles' Manson's motives treestar May 2013 #56

We have brought it on ourselves. wtmusic May 2013 #105

No, we did not bring it on ourselves treestar May 2013 #106

Listen to yourself. wtmusic May 2013 #108

Wasn't Iraq after 911? treestar May 2013 #109

Now we're getting somewhere. wtmusic May 2013 #110

Blowback. nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #136

Motivation in any crime matters to both lawyers nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #40

+1 wtmusic May 2013 #102

Or, he thought it was a cool thing to do jberryhill May 2013 #5

Straw man, but whatever. wtmusic May 2013 #7

Did you interview either brother or even meet them? geek tragedy May 2013 #9

A little reading helps. wtmusic May 2013 #13

Amazingly, the 2013 story you linked to doesn't mention US foreign policy. geek tragedy May 2013 #16

Yeah, I guess you'll have to read a little more. wtmusic May 2013 #21

No, just have, you know, like facts that support your claims. geek tragedy May 2013 #24

"Education" is not synonymous with everything you personally have read treestar May 2013 #68

Straw man? jberryhill May 2013 #25

"a completely normal response" nt wtmusic May 2013 #28

Oh look someone trying to exploit the bombings for their own political agenda. geek tragedy May 2013 #8

We exploit our political agenda with drones. wtmusic May 2013 #15

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what does the book motivate you to do? snooper2 May 2013 #22

It motivates me to try to get other people to read it wtmusic May 2013 #23

Good, just checking...long as it has you just playing on the Intertubes snooper2 May 2013 #26

^^ Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #30

Fear sucks. wtmusic May 2013 #36

where is your home? snooper2 May 2013 #37

Next door. wtmusic May 2013 #39

I didn't know your name was Susan... snooper2 May 2013 #43

You wouldn't know. MineralMan May 2013 #44

Another expert who hasn't read the book. wtmusic May 2013 #99

From what we know, the Tsarnaev brothers never had drones hovering over their heads 24/7 Turborama May 2013 #60

So why is your reaction to not bomb innocent people like the Tsarnaevs did? geek tragedy May 2013 #32

Silly you. There is absolutely no relation between US foreign policy and people attacking us. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #27

Got it. wtmusic May 2013 #29

Empty snark is not a substitute for an actual factual argument. geek tragedy May 2013 #31

See my post #34 above. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #35

Wait, you're serious? RedCappedBandit May 2013 #126

Hmm...no. MineralMan May 2013 #42

Tsarnaev was just "speaking out against the US" until he bombed us. dkf May 2013 #45

Two things Savannahmann May 2013 #47

Yeah, I guess that explains all of the attacks on Canada dreamnightwind May 2013 #58

In this case Savannahmann May 2013 #62

Ignoring the direct and indirect effects of blowback dreamnightwind May 2013 #85

I miss UNREC. zappaman May 2013 #51

Exactly. Bring back the unrec. FSogol May 2013 #65

Oh for fucks sakes drones have nothing to do with it. Solomon May 2013 #53

Not to mention, they do a hell of a lot more killing among themselves than drones ever did. randome May 2013 #59

YOu have no clue what motivates asshats. They can say whatever they want snagglepuss May 2013 #57

LOL!!! WE took them IN when they needed ASYLUM from ANOTHER country. DevonRex May 2013 #61

+1. Also, Isn't the author of that book a big proponent of Bush's torture program? FSogol May 2013 #63

Yes, the very same. I posted a separate reply on that below. Yep he's pro torture. nt DevonRex May 2013 #72

That is interesting. nt RedCappedBandit May 2013 #131

Wow. randome May 2013 #69

Excellent rant. treestar May 2013 #70

Posts like this WilliamPitt May 2013 #76

Come back. nt msanthrope May 2013 #82

Thanks Will. DevonRex May 2013 #83

Welcome back... trumad May 2013 #90

Thank you, Devon! Thanks for the actual reality of the Boston Bombings. Cha May 2013 #79

That book was written by a Bush torture apologist, too. DevonRex May 2013 #84

What a stupid prick. Cha May 2013 #87

Thank you. nt msanthrope May 2013 #81

LOL spare me the open arms bullshit. wtmusic May 2013 #98

You prefer the Bush ass-kisser journalist's opinion? So be it. DevonRex May 2013 #121

Poison that well, baby. Go for it. wtmusic May 2013 #124

You say a lot of bad stuff about Americans. Odd that. nt DevonRex May 2013 #133

I think it would be very hard to get into the mind of someone who kills innocent people. hrmjustin May 2013 #66

"Winners & Sinners: from Mary Murphy to Mark Mazzetti" DevonRex May 2013 #71

+1. Excuses for W while bashing Obama. FSogol May 2013 #73

Yes. Not the kind of man I would take any advice from. Damn Bush worshiper. DevonRex May 2013 #75

as i see the family of the bomber having lots of problems getting a grave dembotoz May 2013 #77

WTF??? "the arguments of no justification start to ring more hollow" ?????? DevonRex May 2013 #97

is there any evidence these guys had issues with our foreign policy or any political matters ? JI7 May 2013 #88

Yup, see 41 nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #89

that isn't evidence of anything , it's his excuse after he got caught JI7 May 2013 #93

So the FBI is making it up nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #94

no, i'm saying that doesn't count as evidence they had issues with foreign policy JI7 May 2013 #96

And you know this how? nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #104

so what ? none of that shows he gave a shit about foreign policy JI7 May 2013 #118

You have more patience DevonRex May 2013 #127

it's a need to view everything as supporting your own beliefs JI7 May 2013 #139

Yeah. DevonRex May 2013 #140

Have a good life in fantasy land nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #135

i'm sure you know a lot about fantasy land, the FBI provided no evidence JI7 May 2013 #138

There probably isn't a single DUer who doesn't have issues with our foreign policy. randome May 2013 #91

true, but i don't think these guys cared anything about our foreign policy or anything political JI7 May 2013 #95

I always hate reading this threads. RedCappedBandit May 2013 #123

Thank you. wtmusic May 2013 #134

We might as well discuss Jeffrey Dahmer's motives. Let's understand him. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #137

Sure, there are clearly sociopaths out there RedCappedBandit May 2013 #141

That's what I believe, anyway. Do some have high moral causes? Honeycombe8 May 2013 #146

they talked ipods, girls etc when they were in the car with the cab driver hostage JI7 May 2013 #142

The issue is not limited to this specific tragedy. RedCappedBandit May 2013 #143

Or they could be a pair of jerkasses Scootaloo May 2013 #144