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fujiyama

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12. In some ways I'm glad we are not Europe

Thu May 9, 2013, 01:30 AM

May 2013

I don't believe that murderers should get light sentences like 4-8 years as in this case, or just 20 or however many years as in the case of the Norwegian killer.

I know people will call this punitive and retributive, but those are partly the reasons we administer justice in the first place. I know I wouldn't want murderers walking around in my neighborhood and I don't want them in society. I suppose I just don't view deliberate murder as a crime which one can be rehabilitated from.

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(Sweden) Court slashes sentence in 'honour killing' case (from 8 yrs to 4) [View all] The Straight Story May 2013 OP

Seems reasonable. Deep13 May 2013 #1

4 yrs for murder is ok? Daniel537 May 2013 #4

Why indeed? Deep13 May 2013 #5

Ridiculous Brooklyns_Finest May 2013 #6

uh-huh Deep13 May 2013 #9

So says the person who thinks it's 'evil' geek tragedy May 2013 #11

I'm sure his short sentence Dorian Gray May 2013 #18

Does he have other sisters? Yo_Mama May 2013 #42

I agree completely Dorian Gray May 2013 #46

How is "he" a victim? LostOne4Ever May 2013 #53

It is not 'evil' to put a murderer in prison. geek tragedy May 2013 #10

Sorry, how many people have you prosecuted? Deep13 May 2013 #39

Again, your vocabulary is confused. geek tragedy May 2013 #40

"Prisons create criminals"? Seriously? The guy is already a murderer. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #49

He stabbed his sister a hundred times. By definition, that makes him a violent, sick cali May 2013 #56

+10.000 smirkymonkey May 2013 #73

cut up people, not women. thats blatantly sexist. nt galileoreloaded May 2013 #58

In some ways I'm glad we are not Europe fujiyama May 2013 #12

Well, the idea is that a less violent punative system will... Deep13 May 2013 #38

Actually, no...the "idea" of prison is not to produce a less violent society. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #50

People are not born murderers. Deep13 May 2013 #52

What does justice mean in this specific case? Allow me. cali May 2013 #57

I dont disagree with you... jessie04 May 2013 #59

Well on the flipside, I'm not too keen on the Blue_Tires May 2013 #45

Ridiculous. MrSlayer May 2013 #2

Good post. fujiyama May 2013 #13

From the article, it seems that the courts ruling was based on age and nothing else. Recovered Repug May 2013 #15

"this pathetic bullshit excuse for a religion" jessie04 May 2013 #17

ANY religion that condones leftynyc May 2013 #19

He literally got away with murder. jessie04 May 2013 #24

Since he's not free leftynyc May 2013 #25

THIS get the red out May 2013 #29

I've never thought of it that way leftynyc May 2013 #35

+10.000 smirkymonkey May 2013 #47

I believe it's wrong not to think some cultures are superior to others. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #26

I believe you are correct. NCTraveler May 2013 #33

So you're saying "Western culture".. jessie04 May 2013 #36

I think that's an overgeneralisation with a core of truth to it. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #37

Our 'Christian Culture' is not much different to that of other fundie cultures. We, eg, are the only sabrina 1 May 2013 #66

How many people on this board wish our culture were more like that geek tragedy May 2013 #41

You've got to be kidding me. MrSlayer May 2013 #48

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey May 2013 #61

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey May 2013 #74

Correct... Pelican May 2013 #23

+10.000 smirkymonkey May 2013 #60

Disgusting. He should have been given a life sentence. smirkymonkey May 2013 #3

absolutely sickening rollin74 May 2013 #7

But she was the family property get the red out May 2013 #31

I wonder how much time he would have gotten for regular murder...nt. Lunacee_2013 May 2013 #8

This was regular murder. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #27

The article says he killed her for escaping a forced marriage. Lunacee_2013 May 2013 #43

Women should be able to apply for asylum RainDog May 2013 #14

At a loss leftynyc May 2013 #16

That's what they do normally. geek tragedy May 2013 #20

Pretty vile leftynyc May 2013 #21

Goes without saying that the thug should be geek tragedy May 2013 #22

I expect rather that the court is congratulating itself today kenny blankenship May 2013 #30

you have that right get the red out May 2013 #32

Sweden invited members of Islamic countries to move to Sweden. jessie04 May 2013 #54

If Sweden considers a young man visciously killing his sister get the red out May 2013 #28

4 years......... Marrah_G May 2013 #34

I would imagine cruelty to farm animals would draw a harsher sentence., nt geek tragedy May 2013 #44

I reject the notion of an "honor killing." DFW May 2013 #51

see jessie04 May 2013 #55

Oh please! smirkymonkey May 2013 #62

I guess no love and understanding. jessie04 May 2013 #63

I am agaisnt light sentences for senseless murders. smirkymonkey May 2013 #64

I suppose you supported Apartheid in South Africa etherealtruth May 2013 #65

Give me a break here. smirkymonkey May 2013 #67

Are you serious? etherealtruth May 2013 #68

I am not quite sure what you are saying. smirkymonkey May 2013 #69

I think we both are sickened by the sentence etherealtruth May 2013 #70

Ok. Sorry. All good I hope. smirkymonkey May 2013 #71

Always good! etherealtruth May 2013 #72