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hamsterjill

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40. He is a hero for saving Amanda, but the past isn't easy to forget.

Thu May 9, 2013, 01:14 PM

May 2013

People are complex. If, as the article indicates, he has genuinely turned his life around, then I applaud him for that courage, as well.

A lot would depend (for me) on what he's done to turn his life around, and how he behaves towards his ex-wife and daughter now. Does he leave them alone? Does he support the daughter (if she's still a minor)? Did he ever apologize to them?

Mr. Ramsey has obviously served his time for his previous infractions, so I have no problem in calling him a hero for his actions to save Amanda Berry. But I wouldn't have a problem with the ex-wife and daughter calling him an asshole, either.

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Charles Ramsey is still a hero. His own domestic violence record doesn't negate what he did to free [View all] DonViejo May 2013 OP

+1 Buzz Clik May 2013 #1

This whole issue is thoroughly ludicrous. sibelian May 2013 #2

I don't see that anyone is talking about the victims' reactions. randome May 2013 #5

Perhaps we should ask the person who ran to him for help. Orrex May 2013 #7

Not for me. I'll still form my own opinion. randome May 2013 #13

Well, your opinion in this is irrelevant Orrex May 2013 #14

We don't label people heroes because it's "necessary". sibelian May 2013 #17

I agree with you. And about Peewee Herman, too, who I would not have thought about. randome May 2013 #34

Because we cannot tolerate greatness in our midst we do all we can to destroy it... LanternWaste May 2013 #19

He IS a hero; the tendency to place heroes up on pedestals above the rest of us is what's disturbing eShirl May 2013 #30

I like your post very much. Perhaps heros are just everyday people who do something extraordinary> KittyWampus May 2013 #44

I generally try to see good in people, but I have to agree with you... MADem May 2013 #27

There's no getting away from it. sibelian May 2013 #46

Yep--dead giveaway, indeed. Did you see this? MADem May 2013 #47

Me too. :) sibelian May 2013 #48

Thank You. I Don't See How His Deeds From Over a Decade Ago Are Relevant Now dballance May 2013 #3

He is a hero--a hero with a flashlight, who shines a light on stuff we might MADem May 2013 #4

No one at DU knows what he's like inside. None of us. randome May 2013 #8

No. We know what he DID. sibelian May 2013 #12

We know that he has McDonalds inside Orrex May 2013 #15

I think we know he is the type of guy who hears someone screaming in distress, and his first thought MADem May 2013 #25

Well said. HappyMe May 2013 #10

Oh nonononono, people can't be complex riqster May 2013 #6

+1 lunasun May 2013 #11

He Did The Right Thing Here, Sir, And That is What Counts Now The Magistrate May 2013 #9

And the fact that he rejects monetary rewards Aerows May 2013 #21

He's a poor black man who's probably had to live with stress for many years Downtown Hound May 2013 #16

not to mention that domestic, resisting, obstruction, disorderly datasuspect May 2013 #26

I am gonna embrace him. tblue May 2013 #28

Absolutely Aerows May 2013 #33

It makes sense Aerows May 2013 #18

I think it makes him MORE of a hero. It shows us that even people cbdo2007 May 2013 #20

Redemption is a good thing! tblue May 2013 #29

Probably a good thing Ramsey didn't know that the Raven May 2013 #22

Amen Aerows May 2013 #23

Exactly. HappyMe May 2013 #24

Sadly, this was my first thought when I read the OP AgingAmerican May 2013 #45

Can we stop with the hero worship? matt819 May 2013 #31

Ramsey kicked the door in without knowing Aerows May 2013 #32

+1. When dealing with psychos inprisoning women, you never know if they have a gun and will use it. Bernardo de La Paz May 2013 #35

America is the great land of second chances (and thirds and fourths ...). Bernardo de La Paz May 2013 #36

How do we define hero? Heracles also had a history of domestic abuse and he is the template for hero Exultant Democracy May 2013 #37

I'm still mad about what he did to poor Linus. Orrex May 2013 #39

still a hero riverwalker May 2013 #38

He is a hero for saving Amanda, but the past isn't easy to forget. hamsterjill May 2013 #40

the map is not the territory fishwax May 2013 #41

Indeed. Here's what Rochelle, his ex-wife said: Mutiny In Heaven May 2013 #42

K&R & Bookmarking Turborama May 2013 #43