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edhopper

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249. Your response

Thu May 9, 2013, 04:47 PM

May 2013

clarifies how you view the work of Randi and the corrupt scamming of Browne.
Nice priorities on who you support.

Now we know.

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Psychic (Sylvia Browne) Who Said Amanda Berry Was Dead Silent After Berry Is Found Alive [View all] Adenoid_Hynkel May 2013 OP

The crazy old bat has probably lawyered up Warpy May 2013 #1

LOL. Do psychics have to have malpractice insurance now? n/t Smarmie Doofus May 2013 #227

Hardly, it's the very definition of malpractice Warpy May 2013 #236

Nope, no chance of lawsuit Scootaloo May 2013 #251

Browne was counting on probability. Bad business, selling snake oil. nt Zorra May 2013 #2

She has since taken down her Facebook page Adenoid_Hynkel May 2013 #3

I was one of the herd JoDog May 2013 #13

When asked why she took the Facebook page down, she said... Dr. Strange May 2013 #25

A psychic says "It's almost like I didn't see it coming." LonePirate May 2013 #26

Well, she didn't really say it. Dr. Strange May 2013 #27

Dr. Strange is a heartless brute; you should never believe anything he writes. Orrex May 2013 #52

I truly miss your more inventive siglines. Damn the bastards who couldn't keep up! nt msanthrope May 2013 #108

. Orrex May 2013 #109

What is Ignored saying about me now? Dr. Strange May 2013 #215

That's it. You're back on Ignore! Orrex May 2013 #237

Shut up! Dr. Strange May 2013 #252

Y'all don't undersand... she was not dead, but subsumed by her abductor/rapist. DCKit May 2013 #4

Newage wackaloonery! longship May 2013 #5

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #245

As long as Faux News is still on Politicalboi May 2013 #6

She's a fraud, but there is nothing awesome about Randi. MotherPetrie May 2013 #7

Completely agree on both Browne and Randi (nt) CrawlingChaos May 2013 #8

Name your issue with Randi! n-t Logical May 2013 #22

Well, his famous "Million Dollar Challenge" was a fraud, for one thing CrawlingChaos May 2013 #124

That is patent nonsense. All of it. Chiyo-chichi May 2013 #136

Clearly you're not familiar with the particulars CrawlingChaos May 2013 #141

I'd be glad to read up on the particulars if you can point me to a link. Chiyo-chichi May 2013 #150

Here you go CrawlingChaos May 2013 #164

"In defense of Sheldrake" says all you need to know William Seger May 2013 #225

Well, that was a substance-free rebuttal CrawlingChaos May 2013 #244

Read it again: It wan't intended as a rebuttal William Seger May 2013 #255

You can spend your whole day attempting to obfuscate if you wish, but... CrawlingChaos May 2013 #257

LMAO, I thought you wanted a rebuttal William Seger May 2013 #260

And your source is - once again - Randi himself CrawlingChaos May 2013 #267

So you prove Randi is lying by assuming Randi is lying William Seger May 2013 #269

Bullshit! Point me to a documented example! And if his million dollar deal.... Logical May 2013 #172

See post #164 above CrawlingChaos May 2013 #177

Anyone who thinks the Challenge is a "fraud" is perfectly free William Seger May 2013 #229

Our local skeptic's orgnanization has a paranormal challenge, too derby378 May 2013 #234

I was not weighing in on the validity of paranormal claims CrawlingChaos May 2013 #243

And I was not weighing in on the invalidity or your ad hominem William Seger May 2013 #246

Oh man, that's a HOOT! CrawlingChaos May 2013 #248

You think you can toss out stuff like this... William Seger May 2013 #256

Irrational ad hominem CrawlingChaos May 2013 #258

First, you have given no evidence that Randi is a liar William Seger May 2013 #262

Oh look, a copy-and-paste directly from Randi's website CrawlingChaos May 2013 #265

"declined to mention" William Seger May 2013 #268

It appears all you can offer is what comes straight out of Randi's piehole CrawlingChaos May 2013 #270

Bullshit, you don't have any "documentation" that Randi lied William Seger May 2013 #271

Randi's lies are documented. Let me help you with this... CrawlingChaos May 2013 #273

Here, let me help YOU out William Seger May 2013 #276

I know it's hard to face the truth about your hero CrawlingChaos May 2013 #277

Oh, bullshit William Seger May 2013 #281

There are only 8 rules and most concern intellectual property. joshcryer May 2013 #272

I don't know anyone who has done more in the fight against bullshit peddling William Seger May 2013 #9

Randi is the flip side of the arrogantly ignorant, self-aggrandizing coin MotherPetrie May 2013 #33

How? Be specific. n/t backscatter712 May 2013 #42

What is he 'arrogantly ignorant' of? William Seger May 2013 #57

Not even in an alternate reality MattBaggins May 2013 #68

Nothing awesome about the man who exposed edhopper May 2013 #17

No, nothing awesome at all -- Randi's tactics are questionable, his results are too. MotherPetrie May 2013 #34

Citation needed. backscatter712 May 2013 #40

You're not making any sense equating the two. Bradical79 May 2013 #53

I've know of Randi for more than 40 years, and personally for the last ten... immoderate May 2013 #54

i think Randi is great - but i'm curious about samsingh May 2013 #62

As far as I can tell, paranormal means make-believe. immoderate May 2013 #66

i do see and experience some unexplained stuff samsingh May 2013 #71

The response to such "stuff" should be "that's unexplained." Orrex May 2013 #98

Take the remote out from under the couch cushion snooper2 May 2013 #133

Okay---so I'm watching Salem's Lot on the TV.....and this scene comes on..... msanthrope May 2013 #240

"Open minded" simply means you're willing to accept proof William Seger May 2013 #69

Extraodinary claims require edhopper May 2013 #70

The Economic Argument pokerfan May 2013 #96

Dowsing? For oil and gas? MADem May 2013 #115

True pokerfan May 2013 #142

Not to mention the grifter who just got a prison sentence for selling dowsing-rod "bomb detectors". backscatter712 May 2013 #143

There's no proof God does either. Eeryone who claims God exists needs to provide forestpath May 2013 #117

This is one of the basic arguments for atheist edhopper May 2013 #132

Ah, I see now William Seger May 2013 #65

He was involved in knowingly shielding an identity thief not too long ago. MADem May 2013 #95

cite? zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #113

Here--and all over google. MADem May 2013 #121

So is Randi himself guilty of any crimes, or is he just guilty of helping out a friend facing jail? backscatter712 May 2013 #146

This wasn't simply a good friend. MADem May 2013 #163

OK, so he's gay and has an undocumented immigrant boyfriend. Why should we disrespect him? n/t backscatter712 May 2013 #199

Not because he's gay. Not even because he has an "undocumented immigrant boyfriend." MADem May 2013 #202

What he did was protect a loved one from deportation. backscatter712 May 2013 #207

What he did was participate in a fraud, and make life a living hell for the real owner of the name. MADem May 2013 #209

Yep, he's guilty of fraud and deception himself. forestpath May 2013 #118

I think he's pretty well respected in the magic community. Chiyo-chichi May 2013 #140

Well, it's probably not appropriate to compare him to Houdini. MADem May 2013 #149

I wasn't comparing Randi to Houdini. Chiyo-chichi May 2013 #154

But debunking wasn't his bread and butter, as I noted--it was more like a sideline, whereas, with MADem May 2013 #156

It wasn't fulff in the 1920s when the Spiritualism Movement was flourishing. Chiyo-chichi May 2013 #162

How many would "pack in" if he didn't end the night locked in a trunk or upside-down in a tank? MADem May 2013 #165

Are you claiming Randi was art of a cover-up? Please be clear. So criminal? n-t Logical May 2013 #179

Before you continue to waste EVERYONE's time here, I would suggest you get off your behind and MADem May 2013 #185

Please name the pseudo-science you think scientists would accept as truth. One that.... Logical May 2013 #189

WTF are you talking about? Now, you're babbling and changing the subject. MADem May 2013 #196

Really? So you think Randi and Brown are equally frauds? I bet you are a woo woo fan!! n-t Logical May 2013 #197

Yes, I do think that a fraud is a fraud, but the one with the woowoo here isn't me. MADem May 2013 #205

LOL, so all I got out of you in this thread is..... Logical May 2013 #219

Randi didn't make a mistake--he cut a deal. MADem May 2013 #221

LOL, Randi = Browne and you "can read people". n-t Logical May 2013 #222

No, I said you CAN'T read people. Follow along, now! nt MADem May 2013 #223

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #213

I said criminal? What crime did he commit? n-t Logical May 2013 #191

He's an accessory to identity theft, a federal crime. MADem May 2013 #193

LOL, so no charges. But he is a criminal? Deep thinker I see. n-t Logical May 2013 #195

He absolutely is a criminal. He broke a law, and he could be vulnerable to federal charges, if MADem May 2013 #200

Temper temper. So Brown who steals $1000s from sad depressed people = Randi. Yes. Deep Thinker! n-t Logical May 2013 #201

You really cannot read people! MADem May 2013 #203

Please expand on your bullshit comment! Details please! What... Logical May 2013 #21

He's nothing but a huckster. Just like Browne. MotherPetrie May 2013 #35

You still have yet to back up your claims! n/t backscatter712 May 2013 #48

How is he a huckster? just one example please MattBaggins May 2013 #72

Lol, examples? I will be waiting! n-t Logical May 2013 #170

"She's a fraud"... SidDithers May 2013 #31

"Randi and Browne are both self-promoting frauds." There I fixed it for you. MotherPetrie May 2013 #36

ROFL. I'd expect no less from you... SidDithers May 2013 #38

You are being dishonest. Bradical79 May 2013 #56

Google Jose Luis Alvarez. MADem May 2013 #100

Really? William Seger May 2013 #119

More than association--they lived together. MADem May 2013 #123

Publish your name on this post. I am sure Randi would like to sue you! n-t Logical May 2013 #180

What, pray tell, will he sue me about? Repeating stuff that's in all the newspapers? nt MADem May 2013 #182

So Randi's guilty of little more than being gay and having an undocumented immigrant boyfriend. backscatter712 May 2013 #192

No. You need to read his testimony to the judge. He admitted knowedge of the identity theft. MADem May 2013 #208

Yes i read it edhopper May 2013 #228

So stealing from the DEAD is an "excuse" to you! Now we know your moral compass! MADem May 2013 #231

And you continue to equate edhopper May 2013 #241

Over two decades he was a party to fraud. And if he could do that, he could also lie MADem May 2013 #247

Your response edhopper May 2013 #249

Yes, it does. I think he's a hypocrite, and a fraudster. If he can lie about that one big thing, MADem May 2013 #250

I have no problem with what you think of him Dorian Gray May 2013 #254

I am not attacking him. Recounting what he did--serving as an accomplice to fraud--is not MADem May 2013 #259

Like I said Dorian Gray May 2013 #261

Of course they are manipulative. Plastic surgeons are, too. So are people who sell self-help MADem May 2013 #266

I have nothing else to argue about here Dorian Gray May 2013 #274

Obviuosly a believer in woo edhopper May 2013 #74

so far you have provided nothing in the way to back up your claim... Javaman May 2013 #79

Randi always provides proof to back up his assertions. EOTE May 2013 #85

Pull any page from any of Randi's writing... Orsino May 2013 #116

Expand on this. How is James Randi not awesome? backscatter712 May 2013 #39

She can't, that's why she's cowardly failed to respond to ANYone asking that Occulus May 2013 #44

How do you know the poster is still online? Just because you are doesn't mean MADem May 2013 #101

I don't see what's wrong with Randy Bradical79 May 2013 #49

James Randi would totally agree with you Brother Buzz May 2013 #73

They are parasites Dorian Gray May 2013 #10

The thing about Brown and her popularity is this justiceischeap May 2013 #11

When are we going to start seeing psychics nailed with fraud charges? (nt) Posteritatis May 2013 #12

And newspaper horoscopes too. Nye Bevan May 2013 #14

So true. and idiots still believe it! Logical May 2013 #23

Well, newspaper horoscopes are only for fun. n/t RebelOne May 2013 #59

NOW you tell me. (nt) Nye Bevan May 2013 #63

Never. There's always a caveat to their work that says something like MADem May 2013 #64

I pretty much agree with you siligut May 2013 #91

You might as well charge David Copperfield for fraud Blue_Tires May 2013 #126

Right after the weather forecasters are nailed with fraud Berlum May 2013 #134

A study somewhere some time back, WOW! edhopper May 2013 #148

Yeeeah, I'm calling bullshit on that claim. (nt) Posteritatis May 2013 #168

Thanks for posting this! I am using the concept as a motivator for a scientist in a script that I Katashi_itto May 2013 #15

How dare that woman sully the sterling reputation of...psychics. Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #16

Of course she is a edhopper May 2013 #18

Well, Justin Beiber tells everyone he's a "singer"....but I take issue with that. MADem May 2013 #76

Where in my post do I say anything about a lawsuit edhopper May 2013 #82

Well, what's a better way to "express our ire" as you put it? MADem May 2013 #99

Your continued comparison of Randi and Browne edhopper May 2013 #135

Because you say so? Look at yourself! MADem May 2013 #137

Jeez edhopper May 2013 #144

Why are you showing me your lapel label, you rude fellow, you! MADem May 2013 #155

just edhopper May 2013 #174

Don't cry. Try being nicer to people, instead of insulting them for no reason or cause. MADem May 2013 #178

almost as odd as who we choose not to hold accountable. LanternWaste May 2013 #19

Really? Tat is your comparison? n-t Logical May 2013 #24

Yeah, really. Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #88

I once stumped the guess-my-age guy at the State Fair blogslut May 2013 #97

I told our local library that they should put her books in the fiction section. progressoid May 2013 #20

They are self help edhopper May 2013 #29

Her website has been closed due to unforeseen circumstances (nt) Nye Bevan May 2013 #28

When we lost our Karley from complications with an illness, we were beyond desperate. polly7 May 2013 #30

Browne would have charged you $850 for a phone "reading" William Seger May 2013 #80

Isn't "silent" best? Who asked her opinion in the first place? Buzz Clik May 2013 #32

This wasn't Sylvia Browne's fault. leftyladyfrommo May 2013 #37

She's a parasite that feeds off the vulnerable. Case in point: Amanda's mother. n/t backscatter712 May 2013 #41

I think we can be angry with lots of things at once. sibelian May 2013 #43

If she's performing Dorian Gray May 2013 #51

+1 redqueen May 2013 #93

despicable, yes, but it IS her job... Blue_Tires May 2013 #128

I've said it elsewhere in this thread Dorian Gray May 2013 #131

It's not entertainment Bradical79 May 2013 #58

Her intent is to make money. Like Cher. Or Justin Beiber. Or the Amazing Randi. MADem May 2013 #111

"People need to aim all their anger at the men who did this. " Orrex May 2013 #60

I do believe it is possible JoDog May 2013 #67

$850 for a half-hour of "entertainment"? (n/t) William Seger May 2013 #81

Some people pay more for less time with a prostitute. MADem May 2013 #125

No, she just exploited and sickened her loved ones for profit. EOTE May 2013 #89

Oh, stop making sense! MADem May 2013 #129

Nobody here has accused Ms. Browne of causing the women to be kindapped or hurt . . . markpkessinger May 2013 #171

You think it's entertaining to be told that your kidnapped daughter is dead? Iggo May 2013 #233

I would just assume never buy into people like Browne Proud Liberal Dem May 2013 #45

We all make mistakes treestar May 2013 #46

Sylvia Browne is a fraud, and I see zero difference between her and any other religion. forestpath May 2013 #47

Big difference: She KNOWS she's a fraud William Seger May 2013 #84

That's beside the point. It's about providing PROOF and NO belief system can do that. forestpath May 2013 #122

I don't understand how any one can really believe bigwillq May 2013 #50

Not defending this psychic, but she did qualify the comment with MADem May 2013 #55

She "clarified" that after saying "She is not alive, honey." LisaL May 2013 #61

Well, the mother is dead now, and it's impolite to speak ill of the dead. MADem May 2013 #77

I am not suggesting that there is a lawsuit here. LisaL May 2013 #86

Well, I don't think she did it to be mean or cruel or "low." MADem May 2013 #92

Those two groups MattBaggins May 2013 #105

Well of course not--but they're both in the same "picture." MADem May 2013 #107

Why is Montel Williams getting a free pass in this MattBaggins May 2013 #75

Because he, like Randi and Sylvia, are "entertainers." MADem May 2013 #102

Hmmm is there another option? MattBaggins May 2013 #103

I am not going to grab a torch and pitchfork and go after MADem May 2013 #110

Well, he's shilling for Payday loan joints now so... tkmorris May 2013 #120

Maybe he needs money to pay his medical bills. MADem May 2013 #130

he shouldn't Enrique May 2013 #188

"Psychic Defective: Sylvia Browne�s History of Failure"... TeeYiYi May 2013 #78

Hack! Hack! Dash87 May 2013 #83

I have the same problem with Punxsutawney Phil Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #87

who gives a shit? nt galileoreloaded May 2013 #90

This thread is incomplete... SidDithers May 2013 #94

Calcified scientific materialism MattBaggins May 2013 #104

Last time, I promise... SidDithers May 2013 #106

What's a real shame is that the perp's of the thread that led to SpiralHawk ScreamingMeemie May 2013 #158

It's OK. I feel like SpiralHawk is still with us, in some strange, magical way...nt SidDithers May 2013 #160

Great thread! zappaman May 2013 #112

does anyone doubt if Sylvia zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #114

Statement from Sylvia on this, via her website: Skip Intro May 2013 #127

UH OH.....the game has been called due to rain on the parade!!!! MADem May 2013 #139

What can I say? This story shows the accuracy level of "psychics". backscatter712 May 2013 #147

Sure. But so what? I have to laugh at everyone getting so poutraged at this old woman... MADem May 2013 #152

I never cared for any of them, EvilAL May 2013 #161

Just another day at DU Stadium, where the Battle of the Opposing Forces on Any Frigging Subject MADem May 2013 #166

For someone who "isn't taking sides" edhopper May 2013 #175

I am not "defending" Browne at all. And I am not "attacking" Randi either. MADem May 2013 #181

Amanda's mother is dead. LisaL May 2013 #184

Oh, and since you were Amanda's mother's very best friend, we should take your word about how MADem May 2013 #186

You don't have to take my word. LisaL May 2013 #198

I promise you, I won't. But I will read with interest all these "published reports" just as soon as MADem May 2013 #204

Here. LisaL May 2013 #210

I guess this was the two percent. MADem May 2013 #217

And Obama is guilty of treason edhopper May 2013 #194

You haven't read the links, and the testimony to the federal judge by your hero, have you? MADem May 2013 #206

I don't want to debate Randi. EvilAL May 2013 #176

Well, gee, more fraud. So? Like I have said, repeatedly, there's PLENTY of fraud by both of these MADem May 2013 #190

Who has Randi personally lied to and ripped off? EvilAL May 2013 #211

+1. backscatter712 May 2013 #212

Those psychics' customers have a choice--to pay or not to pay. They choose to pay that woman, and MADem May 2013 #220

Ok, that's fine, EvilAL May 2013 #230

If you believe Sylvia and pay her money, that's on YOU. MADem May 2013 #232

Sylivia claims to speak to the dead, EvilAL May 2013 #253

Randi is a guy who claims to be a debunker of fraud who participated in a fraud for twenty years. MADem May 2013 #264

Alright, we've made EvilAL May 2013 #275

Jose Alvarez of the Bronx, NY. MADem May 2013 #218

Hyperbolic much MattBaggins May 2013 #214

Yes, you are, indeed. nt MADem May 2013 #216

Not only does it show the 'accuracy', EvilAL May 2013 #157

The only description I could find is that she claimed the suspect was a young guy, 21-22. LisaL May 2013 #183

Sylvia has dedicated herself to making money off bogus predictions CreekDog May 2013 #151

How exactly was Sylvia accurate in her description of perpetrators at the time? LisaL May 2013 #167

They were male? nt. Mariana May 2013 #278

Turns out Amanda's alive and the psychic's career is dead. #oops TeamPooka May 2013 #138

No, her career isn't dead. Mariana May 2013 #279

facepalm TeamPooka May 2013 #280

EPIC FAIL. KamaAina May 2013 #145

sylvia browne has been wrong before. DesertFlower May 2013 #153

ROFL snooper2 May 2013 #239

This message was self-deleted by its author DesertFlower May 2013 #242

Charlatan lpbk2713 May 2013 #159

You mean, like the real Jose Alvarez's heart was broken when he couldn't attend his sister's wedding MADem May 2013 #169

Well, duh WeekendWarrior May 2013 #173

Ah Sylvia Shoemaker Dufresne Beck Browne GoneOffShore May 2013 #187

Um, could it be because she's a damn fraud? Apophis May 2013 #224

I DO believe in spooks. I DO believe in spooks. Smarmie Doofus May 2013 #226

Holy crap the outrage over Sylvia Brown is hilarious. Sheldon Cooper May 2013 #235

Nowadays she makes a living sucking Montel's juicer's juice down with a smile CBGLuthier May 2013 #238

This woman has been proven to be a fraud many times now. geomon666 May 2013 #263