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BainsBane

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40. cop out

Thu May 9, 2013, 06:00 PM

May 2013

You refuse to be specific because you know you argument is indefensible. You didn't name ONE special protection. Any argument requires substantiation. You make clear you cannot do that.

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A good deal of progressive ideology is rooted in sociological theory. [View all] redqueen May 2013 OP

I'm not really qualified to comment on the main assertion... mike_c May 2013 #1

I don't know how anyone can take that course and not come away with that awareness. nt redqueen May 2013 #3

More a case of both progressivism and sociology coming from the same broad social forces unrepentant progress May 2013 #2

DU has a solid plurality who aren't remotely progressive or liberal Fumesucker May 2013 #4

It seems to me to be leaning more that way as time goes on. hootinholler May 2013 #14

Would you say, then, that they're entwined at a fundamental level? redqueen May 2013 #5

Oh sure. Definitely. unrepentant progress May 2013 #9

Sociology is often labeled a junk science because the truths it brings out are inconvenient. Dash87 May 2013 #6

Thinking of the times I've seen it happen here, redqueen May 2013 #10

Well, if one rejects the idea that it is possible to understand society-level geek tragedy May 2013 #7

Probably true - basically the thought that environment shapes the individuals who inhabit it el_bryanto May 2013 #8

Good example. redqueen May 2013 #16

Exactly YoungDemCA May 2013 #24

It would be helpful if you provided examples. nt msanthrope May 2013 #11

It's actually more of a counterexample KamaAina May 2013 #12

To what, precisely? nt msanthrope May 2013 #15

The sociology-bashing KamaAina May 2013 #17

I think whatever 'sociology bashing' was going on hardly justifies msanthrope May 2013 #18

Meta bit the dust a couple of months ago. KamaAina May 2013 #19

This isn't about those particular comments. redqueen May 2013 #20

So expand on your OP--what values are you claiming are 1) progressive & 2) rooted in msanthrope May 2013 #26

Some people will make all kinds of ridicuous arguments to try to justify their misogyny. n/t ellisonz May 2013 #13

This. YoungDemCA May 2013 #21

What about misanthropy? Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #51

Antipathy towards "soft" science comes from those who wish to preserve the existing power relations YoungDemCA May 2013 #22

I read some articles about this a while back... this dismissiveness toward sociology isn't new. redqueen May 2013 #27

I'd be interesting in reading that article YoungDemCA May 2013 #31

or those who wish to preserve actual science arely staircase May 2013 #62

Theory must be substantiated by experiment. sibelian May 2013 #23

social dynamics and sociology tend to focus on what is. galileoreloaded May 2013 #25

No. Sociological findings fuel reform efforts. nt redqueen May 2013 #28

No. sociology defines the existing emotional and biological terrain and galileoreloaded May 2013 #29

That's.... odd. sibelian May 2013 #30

Read up on the history of racial science YoungDemCA May 2013 #32

I'm kinda stunned that this subject is so not intuitively obvious. redqueen May 2013 #34

what your promoting isn't science, its a personal agenda galileoreloaded May 2013 #58

lol, no... not at all. redqueen May 2013 #33

i dont think you get it. n/t galileoreloaded May 2013 #37

... says the guy who thinks there's no such thing as rape culture, redqueen May 2013 #38

lol. not responsible for the reading comprehension of others :) nt galileoreloaded May 2013 #39

cop out BainsBane May 2013 #40

do you read what you write? galileoreloaded May 2013 #41

everyone in that last thread BainsBane May 2013 #43

i was clear in both intent and prose. i cant help you anymore. nt galileoreloaded May 2013 #44

You refuse to BainsBane May 2013 #45

You were not. Multiple people in that thread asked independantly. Democracyinkind May 2013 #50

? redqueen May 2013 #42

It's like opposition to affirmative action BainsBane May 2013 #48

When not a single person understands what you are saying, you might want to look in the mirror... DanTex May 2013 #53

meh, i always consider the source of the criticism and act accordingly. nt galileoreloaded May 2013 #57

+1 ellisonz May 2013 #59

Is it me or is DU degenerating towards the youtube commentary level... DanTex May 2013 #60

Thinking about this some more.... YoungDemCA May 2013 #35

sociology major-although a few years back dembotoz May 2013 #36

a good deal of it is rooted in the teachings of Jesus Christ and the New Testament arely staircase May 2013 #46

The "soft sciences" are no less rigorous than "hard sciences". rrneck May 2013 #47

as a physics, math and economics major hfojvt May 2013 #56

are you kidding me? you actually think people BECAME selfish because they got the idea from reading bettyellen May 2013 #61

The soft sciences depend rrneck May 2013 #63

I refuse to be lectured about "soft science" by non-scientists. Democracyinkind May 2013 #49

I agree. Progressive ideology has spawned from sociological theory. JaneyVee May 2013 #52

Disagree. Progressive ideas are ancient and natural. bemildred May 2013 #54

I think it's a mixture of things LeftInTX May 2013 #55