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Reply to galileoreloaded (Reply #39)

Thu May 9, 2013, 06:09 PM

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A good deal of progressive ideology is rooted in sociological theory. [View all] redqueen May 2013 OP

I'm not really qualified to comment on the main assertion... mike_c May 2013 #1

I don't know how anyone can take that course and not come away with that awareness. nt redqueen May 2013 #3

More a case of both progressivism and sociology coming from the same broad social forces unrepentant progress May 2013 #2

DU has a solid plurality who aren't remotely progressive or liberal Fumesucker May 2013 #4

It seems to me to be leaning more that way as time goes on. hootinholler May 2013 #14

Would you say, then, that they're entwined at a fundamental level? redqueen May 2013 #5

Oh sure. Definitely. unrepentant progress May 2013 #9

Sociology is often labeled a junk science because the truths it brings out are inconvenient. Dash87 May 2013 #6

Thinking of the times I've seen it happen here, redqueen May 2013 #10

Well, if one rejects the idea that it is possible to understand society-level geek tragedy May 2013 #7

Probably true - basically the thought that environment shapes the individuals who inhabit it el_bryanto May 2013 #8

Good example. redqueen May 2013 #16

Exactly YoungDemCA May 2013 #24

It would be helpful if you provided examples. nt msanthrope May 2013 #11

It's actually more of a counterexample KamaAina May 2013 #12

To what, precisely? nt msanthrope May 2013 #15

The sociology-bashing KamaAina May 2013 #17

I think whatever 'sociology bashing' was going on hardly justifies msanthrope May 2013 #18

Meta bit the dust a couple of months ago. KamaAina May 2013 #19

This isn't about those particular comments. redqueen May 2013 #20

So expand on your OP--what values are you claiming are 1) progressive & 2) rooted in msanthrope May 2013 #26

Some people will make all kinds of ridicuous arguments to try to justify their misogyny. n/t ellisonz May 2013 #13

This. YoungDemCA May 2013 #21

What about misanthropy? Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #51

Antipathy towards "soft" science comes from those who wish to preserve the existing power relations YoungDemCA May 2013 #22

I read some articles about this a while back... this dismissiveness toward sociology isn't new. redqueen May 2013 #27

I'd be interesting in reading that article YoungDemCA May 2013 #31

or those who wish to preserve actual science arely staircase May 2013 #62

Theory must be substantiated by experiment. sibelian May 2013 #23

social dynamics and sociology tend to focus on what is. galileoreloaded May 2013 #25

No. Sociological findings fuel reform efforts. nt redqueen May 2013 #28

No. sociology defines the existing emotional and biological terrain and galileoreloaded May 2013 #29

That's.... odd. sibelian May 2013 #30

Read up on the history of racial science YoungDemCA May 2013 #32

I'm kinda stunned that this subject is so not intuitively obvious. redqueen May 2013 #34

what your promoting isn't science, its a personal agenda galileoreloaded May 2013 #58

lol, no... not at all. redqueen May 2013 #33

i dont think you get it. n/t galileoreloaded May 2013 #37

... says the guy who thinks there's no such thing as rape culture, redqueen May 2013 #38

lol. not responsible for the reading comprehension of others :) nt galileoreloaded May 2013 #39

cop out BainsBane May 2013 #40

do you read what you write? galileoreloaded May 2013 #41

everyone in that last thread BainsBane May 2013 #43

i was clear in both intent and prose. i cant help you anymore. nt galileoreloaded May 2013 #44

You refuse to BainsBane May 2013 #45

You were not. Multiple people in that thread asked independantly. Democracyinkind May 2013 #50

? redqueen May 2013 #42

It's like opposition to affirmative action BainsBane May 2013 #48

When not a single person understands what you are saying, you might want to look in the mirror... DanTex May 2013 #53

meh, i always consider the source of the criticism and act accordingly. nt galileoreloaded May 2013 #57

+1 ellisonz May 2013 #59

Is it me or is DU degenerating towards the youtube commentary level... DanTex May 2013 #60

Thinking about this some more.... YoungDemCA May 2013 #35

sociology major-although a few years back dembotoz May 2013 #36

a good deal of it is rooted in the teachings of Jesus Christ and the New Testament arely staircase May 2013 #46

The "soft sciences" are no less rigorous than "hard sciences". rrneck May 2013 #47

as a physics, math and economics major hfojvt May 2013 #56

are you kidding me? you actually think people BECAME selfish because they got the idea from reading bettyellen May 2013 #61

The soft sciences depend rrneck May 2013 #63

I refuse to be lectured about "soft science" by non-scientists. Democracyinkind May 2013 #49

I agree. Progressive ideology has spawned from sociological theory. JaneyVee May 2013 #52

Disagree. Progressive ideas are ancient and natural. bemildred May 2013 #54

I think it's a mixture of things LeftInTX May 2013 #55