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bravenak

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26. Of course they can.

Fri May 10, 2013, 09:51 AM

May 2013

His past made him more aware of things.
He thought he was saving a woman from domestic violence. His previous crime. He was trying to make up for his abuse of his wife by helping a lady.
He ended up saving 3 ladies and a child from a madman.
A man who beat 4 children out of their mothers womb, starved them, raped them, tortured them, and may have eventually killed them.
In this case, the good outweighs the bad.
I hope my former abuser would do the same in that situation.
He could have ignored her cries for help and finished his Big Mac.

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For those who insist on bringing up past legal troubles of people like Charles Ramsey or Neil Heslin [View all] Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 OP

There's lots of casters here. hobbit709 May 2013 #1

Ramsay did a good thing. that doesn't excuse the fear and misery he inflicted on his family cali May 2013 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author madokie May 2013 #4

Wow demmiblue May 2013 #5

Seriously Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #6

holy fuck! boston bean May 2013 #7

You need to delete this post. randome May 2013 #8

why? zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #12

Because it unfairly blames a victim of domestic abuse. randome May 2013 #16

No it goes against the meme the poster and now you seem to be pushing. boston bean May 2013 #20

who deserves to be beaten? zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #27

The poster said to an abused woman boston bean May 2013 #29

I simply made a statement to maybe let someone see that spousal abuse sometimes is a two way madokie May 2013 #34

I read what you wrote. boston bean May 2013 #42

No, you say maybe she was the reason...... bravenak May 2013 #46

My apologies madokie May 2013 #50

so you think I deserved it. cali May 2013 #59

no, here's what you said CreekDog May 2013 #64

So you're saying the majority of abusers are women, but female victims had bullwinkle428 May 2013 #9

That's a popular MRA talking point, actually. redqueen May 2013 #10

so you are blaming all men zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #18

No, blaming men who abuse and the men who make excuses for the abuser. boston bean May 2013 #22

WTF? How the hell did you get that from my post? redqueen May 2013 #24

oh so what you are saying is zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #28

No saying that someone who defends someone who says the abused boston bean May 2013 #32

... redqueen May 2013 #36

LOL. bravenak May 2013 #41

where does it say anything close to that? zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #13

Here: redqueen May 2013 #30

Bullshit madokie May 2013 #48

No. It's nothing "du jour", it's just another sad example of victim blaming. redqueen May 2013 #49

those were your words and the other words blamed Cali for what happened to her CreekDog May 2013 #65

Re-read his post. Some of us have finely tuned bullshit detectors, bullwinkle428 May 2013 #63

Read what i wrote madokie May 2013 #35

What a nauseating post leftynyc May 2013 #15

I'm not blaming the victim I'm simply pointing out that this sometimes is a two way street madokie May 2013 #37

you insinuated that I deserved it. You have no fucking clue cali May 2013 #62

you did blame: "Could you have been a part of the reason that you're ex as he did?" CreekDog May 2013 #66

you are not telling the truth about what you said to me. PERIOD. cali May 2013 #68

What he wrote to you was disgusting. boston bean May 2013 #69

Whoa! bravenak May 2013 #21

I'm going to go out on a limb here... ljm2002 May 2013 #23

fuck off to you madokie May 2013 #40

Oh I read what you wrote... ljm2002 May 2013 #53

"Maybe you had it coming", in other words. Nye Bevan May 2013 #43

simply pointing out that sometimes this is a two way street madokie May 2013 #45

Sometimes it is. Most times it isn't. bravenak May 2013 #51

I deleted it madokie May 2013 #52

I'm sorry for riding you so hard. bravenak May 2013 #56

Kudos for staying harmonious on this thread! randome May 2013 #58

Most dishusting post I've read so far on DU. Democracyinkind May 2013 #44

Did you read all of what I wrote? madokie May 2013 #47

I'ven read it all... Democracyinkind May 2013 #57

I'm sorry for what you have experienced. bravenak May 2013 #11

Of course the two incidences can be separated out in ones mind. boston bean May 2013 #17

Of course they can. bravenak May 2013 #26

You can say the good outweighs the bad, you won't get an argument from me. boston bean May 2013 #31

Exactly! bravenak May 2013 #38

People change. The power of forgiveness is incredible. Bake May 2013 #60

Much of the bringing up of past troubles has to do with the over-the-top reaction to Ramsay. randome May 2013 #3

so you figure it's your "job" zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #14

I'm not condemning anyone. randome May 2013 #19

you're grumbling and mumbling zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #25

No, they are objecting to an obscene idea and thought boston bean May 2013 #33

wha? BlueToTheBone May 2013 #39

Man this thread went off the tracks quick snooper2 May 2013 #54

No kidding! Some kind of perfect storm, I guess. randome May 2013 #55

Good people sometimes do bad things. Bake May 2013 #61

Strange -- I only see three responses Blecht May 2013 #67