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In reply to the discussion: We DID PITT BULLS BEFORE! [View all]PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)1. Salon did a good piece on pits this week.
http://www.salon.com/2013/02/05/in_defense_of_the_pitbull_partner/
Dog Racism
Some people are understandably offended when the demonization of pit bulls is compared with bigotry against ethnic minorities, but theres one aspect of the analogy that is just too apt to ignore.
Pit bulls are disproportionately involved in serious attacks on humans, just as African-Americans are found guilty of a disproportionate number of crimes in the United States. Thats simply what the raw data say.
Most people consider the claim that blacks are inherently more criminal than whites, based on that raw data, to be pretty darn racist as it ignores the social, economic and legal context of crime and instead ascribes it to some imagined genetic or cultural flaw among African-Americans.
And yet, when you strip away the overt falsehoods about pit bulls those locking jaws and shark-like bites the raw statistics, stripped of social context, is the entirety of the case against these animals (made even worse by the unreliable nature of data based on media-reported breeds in attacks).
So when Matt Drudge hypes stories of packs of black youths rampaging in Americas streets, hes rightly called out for race-baiting. But when sex advice columnist Dan Savage, who writes numerous posts about pit bulls behaving badly with titles like, Pit Bulls Should be Boiled Alive like Lobsters and Fed to Their Idiot Owners, and compares these domesticated canines with wild tigers, hes doing the exact same thing as Drudge. (Worse, Savage doesnt appear to make any effort to confirm that the dogs implicated in the stories he promotes are actually pit bulls.)
Dog Racism
Some people are understandably offended when the demonization of pit bulls is compared with bigotry against ethnic minorities, but theres one aspect of the analogy that is just too apt to ignore.
Pit bulls are disproportionately involved in serious attacks on humans, just as African-Americans are found guilty of a disproportionate number of crimes in the United States. Thats simply what the raw data say.
Most people consider the claim that blacks are inherently more criminal than whites, based on that raw data, to be pretty darn racist as it ignores the social, economic and legal context of crime and instead ascribes it to some imagined genetic or cultural flaw among African-Americans.
And yet, when you strip away the overt falsehoods about pit bulls those locking jaws and shark-like bites the raw statistics, stripped of social context, is the entirety of the case against these animals (made even worse by the unreliable nature of data based on media-reported breeds in attacks).
So when Matt Drudge hypes stories of packs of black youths rampaging in Americas streets, hes rightly called out for race-baiting. But when sex advice columnist Dan Savage, who writes numerous posts about pit bulls behaving badly with titles like, Pit Bulls Should be Boiled Alive like Lobsters and Fed to Their Idiot Owners, and compares these domesticated canines with wild tigers, hes doing the exact same thing as Drudge. (Worse, Savage doesnt appear to make any effort to confirm that the dogs implicated in the stories he promotes are actually pit bulls.)
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Thanks. I miss him something awful. He was my first dog ever. And, to be honest, I was nervous based
PeaceNikki
May 2013
#20
And DU totally confuses those shitty owners with those of us here who rescue them and give them
PeaceNikki
May 2013
#17
Do you know who Trained or Owned the Pit Bulls you've come in contact with, though?
KoKo
May 2013
#10
Very Funny...it would take a lot of work...but I guess "Baby Death from Chihuahua"
KoKo
May 2013
#29
I suspect that's why "pits" are blamed for a disproportionate number of attacks.
SwissTony
May 2013
#72
Indeed - imagine how dangerous guns could be if they had a mind of their own. n/t
cigsandcoffee
May 2013
#28
Agree...but, there's always an errant Socio/Pschopatic one..but, that's in us Humans, also.
KoKo
May 2013
#45
I think it's a mistake to demonize them and a mistake to not acknowledge that they can be dangerous.
Marrah_G
May 2013
#52
What you write combined with your sig line make me laugh out loud. The irony. nt
uppityperson
May 2013
#57
DogsBite.org is a scam. It's run by one person named Colleen Lynn, and she makes her money
baldguy
May 2013
#79
DogsBite.org is not truthful. It promotes genocide & sensationalizes vary rare events
baldguy
May 2013
#96
So are you finally backing off your accusation that they steal money from victims?
Nine
May 2013
#98
There is no "they" at DogsBite. SHE dosn't steal money directly from victims - I never said she did.
baldguy
May 2013
#103
Like with most everything else, Americans are too fucking stupid and emotional to do the right thing
whatchamacallit
May 2013
#68
The blog you lifted that from (unattributed, I'll add) is out of date and not telling whole picture.
PeaceNikki
May 2013
#76
I have an aversion to legislation based on bullshit propaganda. A breed-neutral approach is the way
PeaceNikki
May 2013
#97
I told you why I care. I posted the ASPCA analysis on BSL. IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK.
PeaceNikki
May 2013
#102
What I disagreed with was the ludicrous notion that it takes fewer resources...
randome
May 2013
#119
Enforcing laws that work takes fewer resources than trying to enforce laws that don't work.
baldguy
May 2013
#121
What are you claiming - that all these breeds can just "turn off" their instincts?
Nine
May 2013
#100
You do realize the entire case you're supporting against Pit Bulls is a straw man argument, right?
baldguy
May 2013
#129
Do you have any arguments other than personal attacks on those you disagree with?
Nine
May 2013
#140
There is a reason for this bumper sticker I saw on the back of a pickup truck, too: Pit Bull Inside.
randome
May 2013
#135
An elderly neighbor always carried a golf club while walking his elderly Lab
FarCenter
May 2013
#110
i think that there should be some screening before inexperienced dog owners
La Lioness Priyanka
May 2013
#132
Going to be hated for this but no pit bulls - and yes, it does seem to be a problem with the BREED,
MillennialDem
May 2013
#148
Well, if you're worried about voting to ban your little snowflake, don't worry about it
MillennialDem
May 2013
#150
Nowhere does your post specify the forum as a whole rather than me. And aggressive? Project much?
MillennialDem
May 2013
#156