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maxsolomon

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25. at least "pro gun control nuts" can't shoot anyone to death. they're unarmed.

Fri May 10, 2013, 07:12 PM

May 2013

i'm not under any illusion that gun violence is increasing - i read the endless deflections of our gungeoneers.

yet i believe that our level of gun violence is unacceptable and vastly outnumbers the rest of the "developed" world. it would be seen, rightly, as a public health crisis in Australia, Japan, W. Europe.

gun crime has fallen, sure. but gun "accidents" like children shooting children are probably holding steady. gun suicides, probably holding steady. domestic shootings, by men of their wives and children, probably holding steady. mass shootings by armed loons, probably holding steady.

"start with cars and roads" is a red herring and it's gun-nut sophistry. cars and roads are heavily regulated and equipped with safety features. road deaths are falling, too. it's just that EVERYONE drives, so that decreasing percentage of child fatalities is still more numerous than child gun deaths.

i agree with your last 2 sentences.

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Guns don't kill people. Children kill people. kenny blankenship May 2013 #1

No kidding Shadrach May 2013 #5

Oh come on ... You are being ridiculous etherealtruth May 2013 #10

Where are the gun nutz that think everyone needs to have a gun to protect us from people with guns? RC May 2013 #2

Good grief. There seems to be one of these child-on-child shootings every day. femmocrat May 2013 #3

its a ploy using selection bias. galileoreloaded May 2013 #4

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im always suspicious of people willing to use emotional galileoreloaded May 2013 #9

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He A Funny Fella, Ma'am, Our 'Gallileo'.... The Magistrate May 2013 #36

Funny is one word maddezmom May 2013 #45

Indeed, Ma'am: Several Others Come Readily To Mind The Magistrate May 2013 #47

Emotional pleas, selection bias, straw men... Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #55

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You say it like it's a bad thing. 2ndAmForComputers May 2013 #14

well for one... galileoreloaded May 2013 #17

Whereas the mental stress of trying to deny unpleasant facts... 2ndAmForComputers May 2013 #19

i believe it. thats why i deal in facts and not galileoreloaded May 2013 #21

Some facts are intrinsically emotional. 2ndAmForComputers May 2013 #22

facts don't have emotions, humans do. galileoreloaded May 2013 #24

'Team NRA' And The Whole Gun Fetishist Crew, Sir, Ought To Be Ashamed The Magistrate May 2013 #29

I've decided based on the talk above... ellisonz May 2013 #39

Ignore kids killing kids? Cali_Democrat May 2013 #8

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"...disarm all men who are in the middle of a divorce, separation, fight over custody..." 2ndAmForComputers May 2013 #16

no, all men. sexist authoritarians are the best! nt galileoreloaded May 2013 #18

Men kill their spouses at a much higher rate than do women. But OK. marble falls May 2013 #20

very sexist statement. men suffer homocide at rates 3 times higher than women. galileoreloaded May 2013 #23

Killed By Other Men, Of Course, Sir, As You Certainly Know The Magistrate May 2013 #28

elevating any gender is wrong. galileoreloaded May 2013 #32

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happy to oblige, :) oh, and watch those carbs....they'll kill ya. nt galileoreloaded May 2013 #44

at least "pro gun control nuts" can't shoot anyone to death. they're unarmed. maxsolomon May 2013 #25

"pro gun control nuts" are unarmed" HockeyMom May 2013 #26

Thats an incorrect assumption. beevul May 2013 #27

You might want to adjust the hypothosis sarisataka May 2013 #34

thinking people who own guns are pro-gun control Skittles May 2013 #52

The three cases are different in cause GiaGiovanni May 2013 #31

Yes, you're right of course. There's nothing similar about these three cases. Robb May 2013 #35

can you believe these fucking people? Skittles May 2013 #43

That is not what my post said at all. GiaGiovanni May 2013 #49

how about the knee-jerk emotion from paranoid cowards Skittles May 2013 #42

I don't own a weapon. Never did. GiaGiovanni May 2013 #48

who said I am talking about you? Skittles May 2013 #50

Report ranks Camden most dangerous U.S. city newmember May 2013 #37

These could be defensive shootings! ellisonz May 2013 #38

Plus an untold number of kids who brandished weapons and saved the day! Robb May 2013 #46

the gun nuts here get more upset being trashed in a post Skittles May 2013 #51

SATURDAY: 5 year-old shot in face by 8 year-old invited to celebrate reduction in gun violence. Robb May 2013 #53

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