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181. Let's consider that Obama's interaction with both of those ministers…

Sat May 11, 2013, 12:58 PM

May 2013

Could have served as a way to taint them against their own positions of bigotry and bigoted bases.

Now, I'm will concede that Obama may have viewed what influence those two would have in faith circles and popular media as less relevant as their positions on gay rights. Seeing how he's just as willing as every other politician in this country to triangulate with religious types, obviously that's problematic as Obama is willing to dally in that arena.

Warren's a popular author and McClurkin a popular singer outside of their positions on gay rights. Perhaps that was his way in to an advantage against what they stand for.

But much in the way that only anti-Commie Nixon could go to China, we now have a President Obama who can tell these two that they're absolutely wrong on their positions about Gay Rights…

Anti-gay Warren and McClurkin now have worked with a President who supports gay rights… Where is THEIR credibility now?

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Glenn Greenwald never passes up an opportunity to take a crack at Pres. Obama [View all] MrScorpio May 2013 OP

I'm so old.. Fumesucker May 2013 #1

I'm so old I remember when he would regularly criticize the Bush Admins policies. Luminous Animal May 2013 #18

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Glenn Greenwald was talking about Benghazi MrScorpio May 2013 #6

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And you're on this site, why? nt MrScorpio May 2013 #8

So she can say shit like that. nt DevonRex May 2013 #9

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He still calls Obama DevonRex May 2013 #236

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! dionysus May 2013 #221

True and when it comes to other issues treestar May 2013 #136

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+1 treestar May 2013 #131

... MotherPetrie May 2013 #10

I mean, basically, you've stated that you trust a muckraker more than ANYONE in the current admin MrScorpio May 2013 #14

Did you think Greenwald was a "muckraker" when he was criticizing Dubya and Cheney? Fumesucker May 2013 #21

He lost me during that time when he was daily accusing Obama of running an anti-gay administration MrScorpio May 2013 #24

You do know Glenn was living in Brazil at that time because his partner was not allowed in the US? Fumesucker May 2013 #33

Well, if anything, that leaves GG open to an accusation of losing his objectivity about the Prez MrScorpio May 2013 #35

No one is completely objective Fumesucker May 2013 #40

My problem during that time was his insistence that HE KNEW Obama's mind MrScorpio May 2013 #46

Obama himself said he was against gay marriage. Fumesucker May 2013 #50

He equated Obama's equivocal mindset with what he depicted what his policy would be MrScorpio May 2013 #53

Obama was against gay marriage *at* *the* *time* Fumesucker May 2013 #57

Some of us still do not and will not ever trust this administration on that score. Occulus May 2013 #99

yeah how dare he call an adminstration anti gay while it was dsc May 2013 #141

IS this administration anti-gay? nt MrScorpio May 2013 #143

it was certainly a fair question back then dsc May 2013 #149

I never held to the premise of what GG was saying: MrScorpio May 2013 #158

Note to Mr and Mrs Scorpio: DOMA is still the law of the land. Nothing has 'turned out Bluenorthwest May 2013 #170

And, yes, it's still an ongoing process, I admit that MrScorpio May 2013 #173

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I have to say on the Obama administration's performance on gay issues my take is closer to greenwald dsc May 2013 #174

It was. Would it still be if not for every last person who called him out on it? Yes. Yes. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #160

Yet, one could think that Obama actually betrayed Warren and McClurkin… MrScorpio May 2013 #166

That does not even make sense. When a person appoints a surrogate that is what it is. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #172

Let's consider that Obama's interaction with both of those ministers… MrScorpio May 2013 #181

So hate speech against good people you excuse with a thousand words, criticism of a politician who Bluenorthwest May 2013 #213

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What's the difference in the situations? Fumesucker May 2013 #43

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to troll. dionysus May 2013 #225

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not correct, at times Greenwald defends Obama n/t Enrique May 2013 #61

When he's not parroting FOX/GOP talking points on Maher, I gather. nt MrScorpio May 2013 #62

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LOL! So does this give him a pass to spew BS RW talking points on Benghazi? n/t ProSense May 2013 #76

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Has Greenwald said ProSense May 2013 #77

It still won't make him popular, or even respected. MADem May 2013 #78

"Obama's choice of Sotomayor deserves praise" Enrique May 2013 #80

And yet: ProSense May 2013 #85

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Not even what he said watch the video here Report1212 May 2013 #94

GG sat up there and asserted that the GOP/FOX witch hunt "investigation" was valid MrScorpio May 2013 #103

Anybody got video yet? And please no Hula! They don't like furrners Number23 May 2013 #96

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This ProSense May 2013 #138

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Glenn Greenwald, American Crackpot MjolnirTime May 2013 #126

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i watched it, it was worth listening to Enrique May 2013 #139

I watched it too truebluegreen May 2013 #142

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Greenwald is not thinking for himself. No thinking person would say what he did about Benghazi stevenleser May 2013 #154

i watched it Enrique May 2013 #157

And what he said does not make sense and indicates a lack of thinking. nt stevenleser May 2013 #177

It's not like Greenwald has been living in a cave since the GOP takeover MrScorpio May 2013 #193

Exactly. I said the same of folks who agreed with GOP persecution of Clinton over a Blowjob stevenleser May 2013 #239

Despite claims by some, I see very little cult of personality for Obama. stevenleser May 2013 #140

I disagree. truebluegreen May 2013 #147

You have no proof of that. Name someone here who has never criticized the President. You can't. stevenleser May 2013 #151

one well-known character here said "Obama had me at hello" Enrique May 2013 #168

That doesnt mean they have never criticized them. You are making that part up. nt stevenleser May 2013 #176

Try to prove a negative? truebluegreen May 2013 #218

That is exactly my point. You can't do it and thus shouldn't claim it is so. nt stevenleser May 2013 #226

Oh dear. truebluegreen May 2013 #235

Oh dear is right. At DU if you are going to make an assertion be prepared to be asked for proof stevenleser May 2013 #237

Whatevs, dude. truebluegreen May 2013 #260

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!! woo me with science May 2013 #163

Really. Marr May 2013 #197

That's too logical. nt LWolf May 2013 #167

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I'll say this before you're MIRTed MrScorpio May 2013 #146

I'm an American first and it is our job to The Second Stone May 2013 #169

Criticism isn't the problem MrScorpio May 2013 #171

Bullshit. Your post here is an example of the problem. woo me with science May 2013 #182

Greenwald sat there last night and defended a FOX/GOP witch hunt investigation MrScorpio May 2013 #185

"He's right on other things, to be sure…" woo me with science May 2013 #192

Yeah, I don't see any conflict on anything I've stated MrScorpio May 2013 #195

Wow! woo me with science May 2013 #196

I'll just give you this: He's jumped on the Benghazi cover-up bandwagon MrScorpio May 2013 #203

Aw, gee, thanks. But that wasn't what I asked for. woo me with science May 2013 #204

Alrighty, let's see what we have here: MrScorpio May 2013 #206

Thank you very much for posting the links to all those Greenwald pieces, woo me with science May 2013 #219

Wow. I wish I could rec your analysis. truedelphi May 2013 #244

But what's the diff between GG calling Obama... MrScorpio May 2013 #245

Just like you to jump on a wingnut conspiracy emulatorloo May 2013 #257

That is disingenuous. Marr May 2013 #194

Who knows? Maybe he thinks that Issa would conduct an honest investigation of Benghazi MrScorpio May 2013 #199

Thank god someone is. 1-Old-Man May 2013 #175

+100000 woo me with science May 2013 #179

If he's wrong, argue that. Tell us how. Just accusing him of being disloyal is worthless. (nt) DirkGently May 2013 #183

... forestpath May 2013 #184

People like Greenwald make it clear that many Democrats only ever paid lip service to Marr May 2013 #189

Except ProSense May 2013 #200

ROFL! woo me with science May 2013 #201

LOL! ProSense May 2013 #202

What does Greenwald have to say bout Paul's defense of Dawson Leery May 2013 #205

GG can solve that DonCoquixote May 2013 #238

You do realize that those links make *my* point, and not yours, right? Marr May 2013 #208

Oh please, ProSense May 2013 #215

Exactly. I hold ALL politicians to the same standard. forestpath May 2013 #207

So Very True and So Very Sad ... slipslidingaway May 2013 #242

I liked when he took cracks at Obama's homophobia. The Link May 2013 #212

At least Obama did actually address gay rights. CheapShotArtist May 2013 #217

But you refuse to give credit to the activists who spent years pressuring him while he claimed God Bluenorthwest May 2013 #256

I had to remind myself who he was. Thought I was listening to some Teabagger asshole!! Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #227

You're overreacting MNBrewer May 2013 #234

Time will tell. Fully expect the "Loud DU'ers" to jump on the Repug Benghazi Bandwagon emulatorloo May 2013 #259

From what I can tell, all he said is that some incorrect information came from the administration MNBrewer May 2013 #267

It has been investigated to death. Greenwald knows that as well as I do. emulatorloo May 2013 #273

Nor should he... lame54 May 2013 #258

Especially over Benghazi! IMPEACH HIM! emulatorloo May 2013 #261

Sometimes I agree with Glenn Greenwald and sometimes I disagree. Blue_In_AK May 2013 #268

It's better when he's not peddling bullshit nt. MrScorpio May 2013 #269