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8. It shows how easily we can be, er, moved.

Sat May 11, 2013, 10:06 PM

May 2013

A significant portion of us can be teased into support of almost anything if it is fed to us effectively.

That's what I see.

Forty percent of us, evidently.

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Graph showing how Democratic support for closing Guantanamo changed after Obama backed off [View all] Jake Izzy May 2013 OP

Bizarre. Buzz Clik May 2013 #1

Look at the OP's post count michigandem58 May 2013 #77

Look at the fact that it's UNSOURCED Warpy May 2013 #127

Look at the fact that Congress won't let him close it. nt kelliekat44 May 2013 #131

Well, that too, but the problem here Warpy May 2013 #133

It's not bizarre. LWolf May 2013 #80

Gross. Brickbat May 2013 #2

He did not back off treestar May 2013 #3

Obama is CiC of the military, he could have ordered trials at any poiint for everyone in Guantanamo Fumesucker May 2013 #5

No, he needs to get them to the US for the trials treestar May 2013 #15

They don't need trials. They have been there for nearly ten years, what trials are you talking sabrina 1 May 2013 #19

Have you seen the bill that congress passed regarding the detainees at gitmo? If not, I suggest okaawhatever May 2013 #69

Yes, I am aware of the situation and do give credit to Obama for trying. My comment was sabrina 1 May 2013 #117

Thank you. treestar May 2013 #129

Not every single of of them is innocent treestar May 2013 #72

bullshit there are a bunch of innocent people in there that could be released any time He wants. nt limpyhobbler May 2013 #7

No, there they need to come to the US for trial treestar May 2013 #16

Actually, no. Igel May 2013 #20

They have been declared INNOCENT. And considering the wrong done to them by this sabrina 1 May 2013 #24

When you work out how that can be done under U.S. law, treestar May 2013 #70

"Help! We've imprisoned people illegally for a decade and don't know how to stop!" Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #105

Easy to type when you don't have to actually do it treestar May 2013 #128

What has been done is actually not legal nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #125

That's how you interpret that? It shows changing opinion after three years. It doesn't say why. stevenleser May 2013 #4

The only significant difference in the situation is that Obama is now president rather than Dubya Fumesucker May 2013 #6

No, that is a clear example of the Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc logical fallacy. stevenleser May 2013 #11

Simply put without all the fancy footwork, it is called 'situational ethics', or more simply sabrina 1 May 2013 #27

No. I'm not making excuses. I havent expressed an opinion one way or the other in this thread. stevenleser May 2013 #58

I wouldn't be proud of not expressing an opinion as something as important as this. I don't much sabrina 1 May 2013 #73

Why do you always try to distort what I say? Do you think that wins you something? Nt stevenleser May 2013 #115

Sadly, we seem to have plenty of them. Marr May 2013 #63

There is nothing I find more depressing than this. Bonobo May 2013 #66

My, my--an expert on logical fallacies. truebluegreen May 2013 #113

You don't need to be an expert to spot the obvious ones. Nt stevenleser May 2013 #116

Please explain exactly how the Post Hoc fallacy fits my post.. n/t Fumesucker May 2013 #121

Dubya would not have made an EO closing it treestar May 2013 #71

What do we do with people who are detained illegally? Savannahmann May 2013 #78

There is no country that will take some of them treestar May 2013 #79

Their home nations won't take them because of the conditions we attach. Savannahmann May 2013 #111

He has done all he can, call Congress if you really care treestar May 2013 #123

Who said no country will take them? Some countries have been demanding the return of their sabrina 1 May 2013 #119

Clue: there are times when people cannot be deported treestar May 2013 #124

Funding? They are spending a fortune on illegally holding those people in Guantanamo. You must not sabrina 1 May 2013 #135

It shows how easily we can be, er, moved. Skip Intro May 2013 #8

It doesnt show that at all. The type of research you would need to associate the two is not offered stevenleser May 2013 #12

Yikes. Although it could be interpreted as for/against bringing it up for voting since it failed JaneyVee May 2013 #9

that is shameful. I don't believe Democrats are as robotic as Republicans - but Douglas Carpenter May 2013 #10

Wait, ProSense May 2013 #13

Thank you!! The ODSers are in full force today! Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #14

The two different years is intentional... TampaAnimusVortex May 2013 #17

Really? ProSense May 2013 #22

Ahh, there it is... TampaAnimusVortex May 2013 #25

Actually, ProSense May 2013 #28

We can make up out of thin air all the stuff we want to without evidence. It doesn't mean anything. stevenleser May 2013 #60

It would have to be the same question treestar May 2013 #130

"We welcome the president's continuing commitment to closing Guant�namo.. Cha May 2013 #26

This is how the One Percent wins, over and over again. woo me with science May 2013 #18

"They divide us into teams, and foment the partisanship and the hatred. " ProSense May 2013 #23

I didn't need to see the chart, it's been happening here on DU Fumesucker May 2013 #30

Wait, ProSense May 2013 #32

Well then start demanding it be closed and the prisoners either tried or released Fumesucker May 2013 #33

"Released" to where? Recursion May 2013 #35

It's also illegal/unconstitutional to hold them without trial Fumesucker May 2013 #38

Well I certainly raised it, here Recursion May 2013 #40

Prisoners of War have defined rights under the Geneva convention Fumesucker May 2013 #43

That's another good point, but not the one I've kept making Recursion May 2013 #68

These are not prisoners of war. They are more akin to the Mafia. They are soldiers of no country; byeya May 2013 #83

Well, except for the ones that are innocent of any offense. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #112

Here's a suggestion: ProSense May 2013 #36

Were you outraged about Gitmo when Dubya was resident? Fumesucker May 2013 #37

It's ProSense May 2013 #39

Because you constantly make excuses, time after time after time Fumesucker May 2013 #41

Ah, ProSense May 2013 #44

You are wasting your time with her. n-t Logical May 2013 #48

You would ProSense May 2013 #53

Yes, with you. n-t Logical May 2013 #54

I've advised you to get over your obsession. ProSense May 2013 #55

Once again, you are nothing special. Get over yourself, go bump some.... Logical May 2013 #57

Uh, ProSense May 2013 #61

Prosense, what is really odd about you is that I did not even respond to your post. I responded... Logical May 2013 #75

You know what's ProSense May 2013 #81

Like I said, quit stalking me. I did not even respond to one of your posts. n-t Logical May 2013 #85

Really ProSense May 2013 #86

Leave me alone. I mean it. n-t Logical May 2013 #87

. ProSense May 2013 #88

You tend to love attention I have noticed. Either bumping own posts to get responses or.... Logical May 2013 #89

Hey, ProSense May 2013 #90

I love this. How long will you keep responding and whining about other posts? n-t Logical May 2013 #91

Maybe as ProSense May 2013 #92

For the 2nd time on this thread! QUIT STALKING ME! n-t Logical May 2013 #93

Just so you know ProSense May 2013 #94

For the 3rd time on this thread! QUIT STALKING ME!" Logical May 2013 #95

. ProSense May 2013 #96

For the 4th time on this thread! QUIT STALKING ME!" Logical May 2013 #97

Don't you ProSense May 2013 #98

For the 5th time on this thread! QUIT STALKING ME!" n-t Logical May 2013 #99

Don't you ProSense May 2013 #100

For the 6th time on this thread! QUIT STALKING ME!" Logical May 2013 #101

Do me a favor, ProSense May 2013 #102

For the 7th time on this thread! QUIT STALKING ME!" n-t Logical May 2013 #103

Can we ProSense May 2013 #104

For the 8th time on this thread! QUIT STALKING ME!" n-t Logical May 2013 #106

Thanks. n/t ProSense May 2013 #107

For the 9th time on this thread! QUIT STALKING ME!" n-t Logical May 2013 #108

I have to go ProSense May 2013 #110

For the 10th time on this thread! QUIT STALKING ME! n-t Logical May 2013 #114

Nothing has changed? progressoid May 2013 #64

If you ProSense May 2013 #65

K&R woo me with science May 2013 #21

A book "How to Lie with Statistics" is owned by a number of propagandists, AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #29

Explain then the number of Gitmo defenders on DU when there were basically zero five years ago Fumesucker May 2013 #31

Some are more loyal to principals instead of principles. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #47

During those three years multiple nations have refused to take the prisoners Recursion May 2013 #34

Obama has apparently never heard that it's easier to beg forgiveness than ask permission tularetom May 2013 #42

Yeah, ProSense May 2013 #45

Goddamnit, you've seen through my evil plan tularetom May 2013 #49

Based on the OP ProSense May 2013 #50

Hey I can do this too tularetom May 2013 #59

Cool, ProSense May 2013 #62

OMG I didn't realize there were that many bobble heads in the D party. kickysnana May 2013 #46

There are. Savannahmann May 2013 #52

There are two kinds kudzu22 May 2013 #56

K & R !!! WillyT May 2013 #51

Principles are more flexible when "our guy" is running things. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #67

Keep trying... SidDithers May 2013 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author michigandem58 May 2013 #76

At least 6% of us are consistent. n/t rucky May 2013 #82

The rule at this site is "It's okay if Obama does it." alarimer May 2013 #84

The US is the Ariel Castro of the international scene. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #109

Dragging Democrats to the right kenny blankenship May 2013 #118

Holy jumpin' possums! DAMMIT PEOPLE WILL YOU PLEASE START THINKING FOR YOURSELVES?!?!? Zorra May 2013 #120

I'm not sure the climate would take all that thinking at one time Fumesucker May 2013 #122

Notice these pie charts had NO SOURCE??? Warpy May 2013 #126

The sources are listed right underneath them. woo me with science May 2013 #136

kick woo me with science May 2013 #132

I don't think it's that simple. During the brief national dialogue ecstatic May 2013 #134