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zeemike

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23. Everyone seems to know him petty well here...

Sun May 12, 2013, 11:21 PM

May 2013

And know that he is a factual rapist too...but I guess we are far removed from innocent until proven guilty and we can know deep in a person's soul just by reading news stories and reading blogs...but then it was rape he is accused of...the not wearing a condom kind of rape, which is an automatic guilty right there...cause women never lie.
It is a whole new world we live in now...where emotions are all the evidence needed.

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�I was targeted after I made Assange sex crime claim� says accuser of Wikileaks founder [View all] struggle4progress May 2013 OP

I'm inclined to believe her. Nye Bevan May 2013 #1

Considering your SOP of appropriating liberal terminology brentspeak May 2013 #7

And your ad-hominem changes the fact that few accusations of rape are false exactly how? stevenleser May 2013 #9

Rape brentspeak May 2013 #18

It's the Whoopi Goldberg defense marshall May 2013 #81

That is not true regarding the condom... he held at least one woman down after she objected. stevenleser May 2013 #96

Please don't use the term "forcible rape." n/t Flying Squirrel May 2013 #112

I don't have time to click on all of those links. Nye Bevan May 2013 #13

Attack the messenger all you like... Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #15

Surprise, surprise. All conservatives believe her. Down with whistle blowers. Down with Occupy. rhett o rick May 2013 #22

Do you believe Jemima Khan opposes whistle-blowers and supports domestic surveillance? struggle4progress May 2013 #105

3 ... 2 ... 1 ... Summer Hathaway May 2013 #2

Explain to me what his crime was. napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #31

The UK courts, upholding the extradition request, took the PoV that sex with an unconscious woman, struggle4progress May 2013 #42

Many states in the USA hold having sex with an unconscious or incompetent person to be rape. freshwest May 2013 #51

I don't know why you're asking me to explain Summer Hathaway May 2013 #70

This ^^^^^^^ treestar May 2013 #89

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.. pipoman May 2013 #3

On Mother's Day, Mrs. Assange sends out cards to all her friends. randome May 2013 #4

i find him to be sleazy JI7 May 2013 #5

Yeah, that was so sleazy the way his site leaked info about multi-nationals and war crimes. napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #38

Yes, because that was obviously precisely the thing that elicited the "sleazy" assessment. Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #71

A more vacuous response. Well, let's try. napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #76

Congratulations. You pulled it off. Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #80

Part of me feels like we need someone like Assanage in the world..... Parable Arable May 2013 #6

rape isn't his personal life BainsBane May 2013 #8

Point taken. Parable Arable May 2013 #11

Rape isn't what he was convicted of. napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #39

He is evading prosecution BainsBane May 2013 #43

"The law". Snort. nt Bonobo May 2013 #46

Rape of a woman, hysterical BainsBane May 2013 #91

He hasn't been convicted of anything. Sweden has sought his return to Sweden in order to prosecute struggle4progress May 2013 #56

+1 nt napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #58

a country that doesn't seem to care about rape allegations 95% of the time burnodo May 2013 #72

This woman can't win, no matter what happens. It wasn't a 'legitimate' rape, some would say. freshwest May 2013 #10

Too many people dismiss the rape charge BainsBane May 2013 #44

The third paragraph said it all for me. I was joking about Akin. Bet he'd call that rape. freshwest May 2013 #49

someone just compared BainsBane May 2013 #61

That's what's disturbing, his role as "crusader" seems to immunize him from a host of misdeeds. Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #108

Of course she was... SidDithers May 2013 #12

The attorney doesn't seem to be denying unwanted sex didn't occur. Just their attitude, he says? freshwest May 2013 #21

That graphic is SO FULL OF SHIT Matariki May 2013 #35

If he would stand trial BainsBane May 2013 #45

Here is a better one. Bonobo May 2013 #54

Nah, they doubted her because it reeks of CIA LittleBlue May 2013 #14

Yes, because no one at odds with the CIA could EVER be a self-absorbed rapist asshole. Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #16

It's possible, then again LittleBlue May 2013 #17

Yeah, that's certainly a fair point. Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #19

If they would give him immunity LittleBlue May 2013 #20

and what is more interesting azureblue May 2013 #24

No! Don't say that! It was rape! napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #40

In fact the original complaints did include a rape allegation. A Swedish prosecutor removed the rape struggle4progress May 2013 #47

unlawful coercion and three counts of sexual molestation BainsBane May 2013 #48

Oh my God, Bill Clinton did WHAT with his willy? napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #50

Clinton didn't rape anyone BainsBane May 2013 #60

Oh, you're awfully concerned about rape aren't you. napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #63

I post quite a bit about rape BainsBane May 2013 #65

Ooh, you know "more than you want to about me". napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #68

I know that you think consensual sex BainsBane May 2013 #90

You know that's not what I'm saying. napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #111

Excellent post Matariki May 2013 #95

Let US and Sweden take extradition off the table Generic Other May 2013 #100

Everyone seems to know him petty well here... zeemike May 2013 #23

Since no facts are really known, this is truly the perfect litmus test. Bonobo May 2013 #26

yep i notice a certain group on here hates assange and any or all whistleblower types , guilty until boilerbabe May 2013 #29

Sadly, the Obama administration has prosecuted more whistleblowers than any other President. Matariki May 2013 #34

Self-deletes tell their own story. nt Bonobo May 2013 #36

But so far, not Assange brooklynite May 2013 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author Nye Bevan May 2013 #32

fleeing jurisdiction BainsBane May 2013 #64

please tell us azureblue May 2013 #28

Yes absolutely. Matariki May 2013 #30

There was a very good and thoughtful interview with Assange on Smiley and West today on NPR Matariki May 2013 #25

and uppity women BainsBane May 2013 #66

Strawmen rarely work as well as you may think. nt Bonobo May 2013 #69

So this anonomous woman's story has changed from a torn condom to "a victim of assault"? Matariki May 2013 #27

Your misrepresentations don't improve my opinion of your hero, especially since struggle4progress May 2013 #109

Many of the comments here remind me of how the RW treated Anita Hill (nt) Nye Bevan May 2013 #33

I agree completely. Bonobo May 2013 #37

you mean you feel like Assange has been treated badly? burnodo May 2013 #73

According to Reuters the US hasn't filed any charges against Assange ucrdem May 2013 #41

Yup, the US treats 'enemies of the state' quite fairly these days. nt Bonobo May 2013 #52

Whether he could be charged in the US rather depends on what he has done. If he simply struggle4progress May 2013 #55

If the government told me the sky was blue, I would open a door and check LittleBlue May 2013 #59

He didn't break US law Recursion May 2013 #62

It's illegal for anyone to talk about sealed indictments Matariki May 2013 #92

Is there any evidence of US legal measures against Assange? ucrdem May 2013 #103

From direct testimony at the Manning pre-trial... Luminous Animal May 2013 #107

Okay thanks, but Mander is an Army investigator ucrdem May 2013 #113

Ah to be able to believe "government sources". nm rhett o rick May 2013 #106

This can't be refuted.. Cha May 2013 #53

Even if true, Assange can't be held to blame for what some supporters do. nt Live and Learn May 2013 #67

He's to blame for fleeing prosecution for sexual assault BainsBane May 2013 #75

It's an unwillingness to separate the man from the cause. Wikileaks can be a good thing; Anonymous freshwest May 2013 #74

Assange is a hero. Go Vols May 2013 #57

This isn't surprising to me. Tien1985 May 2013 #77

If it were anyone else but Assange, I bet the reaction here would be different. riqster May 2013 #78

Nailed it... SidDithers May 2013 #79

If it were not Assange, we would have never heard about the charges. Live and Learn May 2013 #82

Every country has its own laws riqster May 2013 #83

In some countries what this woman did Live and Learn May 2013 #84

Anyone who hides out in an embassy for months, refusing to comply with the legal orders issued riqster May 2013 #88

It's called Bobbie Jo May 2013 #86

Oh my, yes. riqster May 2013 #87

Thank you! For all the women in my family, I say T-H-A-N-K YOU!!!! No one should be immune to..... Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #114

Struggle4progress, have you posted as obsessively about the Steubenville case? Matariki May 2013 #93

Ziiiiiiiing! +1000. nt. polly7 May 2013 #94

How many DUers defended those rapists? Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #98

How many of those people were whistleblowers the US has a hard on to "get"? Matariki May 2013 #99

A rapist is someone who has sex with people without their consent. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #101

"A rapist is someone who has sex with people without their consent." Bobbie Jo May 2013 #104

Why? The Steubenville rapists got to face their accusers. That's how the justice system works. Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #115

Is the Rawstory article untrue? Nine May 2013 #97

Thanks. With that paragraph admitted by one's own attorney, if he was not named Assange, freshwest May 2013 #102

It is rape apologia BainsBane May 2013 #110