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53. This can't be refuted..

Reply to struggle4progress (Original post)

Mon May 13, 2013, 12:52 AM

May 2013

Numerous articles have appeared online speculating both about the veracity of the women’s claims, and the some have claimed agenda lies behind them. And some of the Assange supporters who have turned up to the west London embassy building for his public appearances have been known to bring placards denigrating the Wikileaks founder’s accusers ...

Mr Assange’s mother Christine Assange has also launched attacks on those who have opposed her son for his refusal to go to Sweden ... Writing on Twitter, she called them “rabid irrational frenzied ‘feminists’ ” ...

I find the Swedish Woman's story credible that Assange's supporters would want to smear the messenger. I've seen it on here.

thanks for the report, struggle4progress.

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�I was targeted after I made Assange sex crime claim� says accuser of Wikileaks founder [View all] struggle4progress May 2013 OP

I'm inclined to believe her. Nye Bevan May 2013 #1

Considering your SOP of appropriating liberal terminology brentspeak May 2013 #7

And your ad-hominem changes the fact that few accusations of rape are false exactly how? stevenleser May 2013 #9

Rape brentspeak May 2013 #18

It's the Whoopi Goldberg defense marshall May 2013 #81

That is not true regarding the condom... he held at least one woman down after she objected. stevenleser May 2013 #96

Please don't use the term "forcible rape." n/t Flying Squirrel May 2013 #112

I don't have time to click on all of those links. Nye Bevan May 2013 #13

Attack the messenger all you like... Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #15

Surprise, surprise. All conservatives believe her. Down with whistle blowers. Down with Occupy. rhett o rick May 2013 #22

Do you believe Jemima Khan opposes whistle-blowers and supports domestic surveillance? struggle4progress May 2013 #105

3 ... 2 ... 1 ... Summer Hathaway May 2013 #2

Explain to me what his crime was. napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #31

The UK courts, upholding the extradition request, took the PoV that sex with an unconscious woman, struggle4progress May 2013 #42

Many states in the USA hold having sex with an unconscious or incompetent person to be rape. freshwest May 2013 #51

I don't know why you're asking me to explain Summer Hathaway May 2013 #70

This ^^^^^^^ treestar May 2013 #89

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.. pipoman May 2013 #3

On Mother's Day, Mrs. Assange sends out cards to all her friends. randome May 2013 #4

i find him to be sleazy JI7 May 2013 #5

Yeah, that was so sleazy the way his site leaked info about multi-nationals and war crimes. napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #38

Yes, because that was obviously precisely the thing that elicited the "sleazy" assessment. Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #71

A more vacuous response. Well, let's try. napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #76

Congratulations. You pulled it off. Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #80

Part of me feels like we need someone like Assanage in the world..... Parable Arable May 2013 #6

rape isn't his personal life BainsBane May 2013 #8

Point taken. Parable Arable May 2013 #11

Rape isn't what he was convicted of. napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #39

He is evading prosecution BainsBane May 2013 #43

"The law". Snort. nt Bonobo May 2013 #46

Rape of a woman, hysterical BainsBane May 2013 #91

He hasn't been convicted of anything. Sweden has sought his return to Sweden in order to prosecute struggle4progress May 2013 #56

+1 nt napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #58

a country that doesn't seem to care about rape allegations 95% of the time burnodo May 2013 #72

This woman can't win, no matter what happens. It wasn't a 'legitimate' rape, some would say. freshwest May 2013 #10

Too many people dismiss the rape charge BainsBane May 2013 #44

The third paragraph said it all for me. I was joking about Akin. Bet he'd call that rape. freshwest May 2013 #49

someone just compared BainsBane May 2013 #61

That's what's disturbing, his role as "crusader" seems to immunize him from a host of misdeeds. Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #108

Of course she was... SidDithers May 2013 #12

The attorney doesn't seem to be denying unwanted sex didn't occur. Just their attitude, he says? freshwest May 2013 #21

That graphic is SO FULL OF SHIT Matariki May 2013 #35

If he would stand trial BainsBane May 2013 #45

Here is a better one. Bonobo May 2013 #54

Nah, they doubted her because it reeks of CIA LittleBlue May 2013 #14

Yes, because no one at odds with the CIA could EVER be a self-absorbed rapist asshole. Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #16

It's possible, then again LittleBlue May 2013 #17

Yeah, that's certainly a fair point. Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #19

If they would give him immunity LittleBlue May 2013 #20

and what is more interesting azureblue May 2013 #24

No! Don't say that! It was rape! napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #40

In fact the original complaints did include a rape allegation. A Swedish prosecutor removed the rape struggle4progress May 2013 #47

unlawful coercion and three counts of sexual molestation BainsBane May 2013 #48

Oh my God, Bill Clinton did WHAT with his willy? napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #50

Clinton didn't rape anyone BainsBane May 2013 #60

Oh, you're awfully concerned about rape aren't you. napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #63

I post quite a bit about rape BainsBane May 2013 #65

Ooh, you know "more than you want to about me". napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #68

I know that you think consensual sex BainsBane May 2013 #90

You know that's not what I'm saying. napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #111

Excellent post Matariki May 2013 #95

Let US and Sweden take extradition off the table Generic Other May 2013 #100

Everyone seems to know him petty well here... zeemike May 2013 #23

Since no facts are really known, this is truly the perfect litmus test. Bonobo May 2013 #26

yep i notice a certain group on here hates assange and any or all whistleblower types , guilty until boilerbabe May 2013 #29

Sadly, the Obama administration has prosecuted more whistleblowers than any other President. Matariki May 2013 #34

Self-deletes tell their own story. nt Bonobo May 2013 #36

But so far, not Assange brooklynite May 2013 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author Nye Bevan May 2013 #32

fleeing jurisdiction BainsBane May 2013 #64

please tell us azureblue May 2013 #28

Yes absolutely. Matariki May 2013 #30

There was a very good and thoughtful interview with Assange on Smiley and West today on NPR Matariki May 2013 #25

and uppity women BainsBane May 2013 #66

Strawmen rarely work as well as you may think. nt Bonobo May 2013 #69

So this anonomous woman's story has changed from a torn condom to "a victim of assault"? Matariki May 2013 #27

Your misrepresentations don't improve my opinion of your hero, especially since struggle4progress May 2013 #109

Many of the comments here remind me of how the RW treated Anita Hill (nt) Nye Bevan May 2013 #33

I agree completely. Bonobo May 2013 #37

you mean you feel like Assange has been treated badly? burnodo May 2013 #73

According to Reuters the US hasn't filed any charges against Assange ucrdem May 2013 #41

Yup, the US treats 'enemies of the state' quite fairly these days. nt Bonobo May 2013 #52

Whether he could be charged in the US rather depends on what he has done. If he simply struggle4progress May 2013 #55

If the government told me the sky was blue, I would open a door and check LittleBlue May 2013 #59

He didn't break US law Recursion May 2013 #62

It's illegal for anyone to talk about sealed indictments Matariki May 2013 #92

Is there any evidence of US legal measures against Assange? ucrdem May 2013 #103

From direct testimony at the Manning pre-trial... Luminous Animal May 2013 #107

Okay thanks, but Mander is an Army investigator ucrdem May 2013 #113

Ah to be able to believe "government sources". nm rhett o rick May 2013 #106

This can't be refuted.. Cha May 2013 #53

Even if true, Assange can't be held to blame for what some supporters do. nt Live and Learn May 2013 #67

He's to blame for fleeing prosecution for sexual assault BainsBane May 2013 #75

It's an unwillingness to separate the man from the cause. Wikileaks can be a good thing; Anonymous freshwest May 2013 #74

Assange is a hero. Go Vols May 2013 #57

This isn't surprising to me. Tien1985 May 2013 #77

If it were anyone else but Assange, I bet the reaction here would be different. riqster May 2013 #78

Nailed it... SidDithers May 2013 #79

If it were not Assange, we would have never heard about the charges. Live and Learn May 2013 #82

Every country has its own laws riqster May 2013 #83

In some countries what this woman did Live and Learn May 2013 #84

Anyone who hides out in an embassy for months, refusing to comply with the legal orders issued riqster May 2013 #88

It's called Bobbie Jo May 2013 #86

Oh my, yes. riqster May 2013 #87

Thank you! For all the women in my family, I say T-H-A-N-K YOU!!!! No one should be immune to..... Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #114

Struggle4progress, have you posted as obsessively about the Steubenville case? Matariki May 2013 #93

Ziiiiiiiing! +1000. nt. polly7 May 2013 #94

How many DUers defended those rapists? Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #98

How many of those people were whistleblowers the US has a hard on to "get"? Matariki May 2013 #99

A rapist is someone who has sex with people without their consent. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #101

"A rapist is someone who has sex with people without their consent." Bobbie Jo May 2013 #104

Why? The Steubenville rapists got to face their accusers. That's how the justice system works. Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #115

Is the Rawstory article untrue? Nine May 2013 #97

Thanks. With that paragraph admitted by one's own attorney, if he was not named Assange, freshwest May 2013 #102

It is rape apologia BainsBane May 2013 #110