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Chan790

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20. The DEA does target pro-legalization groups...

Mon May 13, 2013, 07:24 AM

May 2013

with nary an apology.

The FBI frequently infiltrates even the most benign and activism-apathetic veg*n groups and even pot-luck clubs in its failing search to root out and identify an organizational structure, recruitment techniques and recruiters for ELF/ALF...with no thought to the notion they're basically profiling large swatches of the public for personal-ethics choices.

Bush-era federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies routinely infiltrated mosques and Arab-American organizations with undercover agents whose jobs were to express discontentment and anger with America to attempt to get recruited and (fake) radicalized for Al Qaeda and anti-American terror plots.

I don't approve of any of it but I'm not sticking my head in the sand over it occurring either. The Brits are far more aggressive and far less apologetic about it than we are.

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Ugh. More information about the IRS targeting groups and how they did it [View all] cali May 2013 OP

So why are you joining in the other thread with the attack on Kucinich over this? Bonobo May 2013 #1

I didn't attack him for what he said, and you know that. cali May 2013 #3

I hear you and I also am no fan of that. Bonobo May 2013 #4

Who heads up the IRS? MrSlayer May 2013 #2

A Bushie. Scuba May 2013 #21

lol BlueToTheBone May 2013 #27

I no longer see how we can win when our own go after our side time and again Katashi_itto May 2013 #5

Aw, like black voters have to require an inordinate amount of info to JUST VOTE? KittyWampus May 2013 #29

Like that makes any sense at all. Katashi_itto May 2013 #31

From your post:"Tea Party groups complained last year that they were required to provide an inordina KittyWampus May 2013 #39

And that relates to black voters how....? Katashi_itto May 2013 #40

You must not have been paying attention- Minority voters had new obstacles in registering to vote KittyWampus May 2013 #41

Nope I have been paying attention, you havent been keeping track of what going on with SCOTUS Katashi_itto May 2013 #42

Like what are you talking about? badtoworse May 2013 #35

How do you define "we"? Marr May 2013 #36

Let's see, the IRS is in charge of collecting taxes and you think it is wrong for them to FSogol May 2013 #6

+1, n/t RKP5637 May 2013 #7

grab a frickin' clue: Even if that was all they'd done, it would be WRONG in a major way. duh cali May 2013 #8

If facts are as the article states, then that's bad Xipe Totec May 2013 #24

ALL tax-exempt/charity/foundations/etc should be looked at intensely SoCalDem May 2013 #9

YES! This whole argument is being shifted to say the IRS "targeted", rather than "scrutinized" for chimpymustgo May 2013 #10

But they didn't look at all marshall May 2013 #12

I agree. the mistake is apologizing and I believe the apology was done on purpose just to give kelliekat44 May 2013 #13

Would you be OK with the DEA targeting pro-legalization groups? (nt) Nye Bevan May 2013 #15

The DEA does target pro-legalization groups... Chan790 May 2013 #20

Would I be ok with the FBI looking for the guys on the Most Wanted List? FSogol May 2013 #25

If one wanted to identify organizations that do not meet the requirements for tax exemption, Hoyt May 2013 #11

That's what I am thinking. Thank you. djean111 May 2013 #16

Yes, it's the same reason that law enforcement looks at NAMBLA a wee bit harder than other groups... Tom Ripley May 2013 #23

More Info Needed Here... KharmaTrain May 2013 #14

Agree about it possibly being a "pre-emptive strike" of further investigation KoKo May 2013 #37

A Very Good Point... KharmaTrain May 2013 #38

No, ProSense May 2013 #17

No Obama political appointees at the IRS , btw. geek tragedy May 2013 #18

The truth is that every year the IRS targets certain groups because they can't target them all. JaneyVee May 2013 #19

Makes sense... KansDem May 2013 #26

Talking Points Memo has a good short article about this non-scandal. greatlaurel May 2013 #22

why shouldn't the raison d'etre of an entity be a disqualifier for tax exemption? ellenfl May 2013 #28

DU might be screaming about it if it was the GOP Enrique May 2013 #30

"If a republican administration had done this, DU would be screaming about it..." Blue_Tires May 2013 #32

Isn't the IRS independent of the administration? sadbear May 2013 #33

Douglas Shulman, the head of the IRS at the time was a bush43 plant madokie May 2013 #34